Mini Munch cucumber and compact peppers in a Farm 24 XL
Grow log by maskedsonnet · Original thread
What you can learnUseful mixed-crop case showing that a parthenocarpic mini cucumber can produce repeatedly indoors while sharing a Farm with compact peppers, although vine management becomes demanding.
Useful practices
- redirecting and supporting vines
- frequent pruning and cleanup
- staggered harvesting
- regular feeding and reservoir refilling
Problems encountered
- cucumber vine entangling pepper plants
- temporary cucumber wilt or edema
- cold stress
- dead cucumber foliage
- uneven pepper flavour and productivity
*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.
Lots of cukes, well done!
Nice
How do you like the Pot-A-Peno's green? I didn't like them green, but ripe they are fruity and delicious.
They’re pretty grassy tasting! I didn’t care much for them green, but I mixed these in chopped fine with a bunch of reds to cover up the taste. The red ones are definitely the tastiest.
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Yum!
Love your Farm 24 XL posts!
maskedsonnet, is that a single Mini Munch cucumber plant in your Farm XL? Did you just let it drape over the top "trellis" when the lights couldn't be raised further?Now that my Mini Munch wants to climb, I'm going to raise the lights to accommodate it. (I may need to relocate or start over with my lemon cuke and/or Green Zebra.) However, I'm not sure how to handle MM.
It is a single plant that put out a couple of vines. Once I hit the height-limit of the lights I tried to drape it along the top string to encourage it to go horizontal-ish along it, but that didn't work well, it just ended up draping itself over the string to hang down the other side of it.
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Wow! Impressive!
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Wonderful. Question, how hot were your jalapenos? My Pot-A-Penos have been on the milder side for a jalapeno, so far.
Looks scrumptious!
They’re mild, like I can still feel the spice a bit but not near the level I usually expect from home-grown jalapeños. But they are way better than store-bought, which usually taste like grass with no heat to me!
With luck, my cucumber will produce like yours, maskedsonnet.
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Based on the garden updates I've just seen, might I suggest a salad recipe? It is something I modified from an old BH&G book...Garden Pasta Salad½ cup salami, pepperoni, OR mortadella, cut into small pieces1 medium tomato, peeled & chopped¼ cup chopped cucumber¼ cup chopped green pepper1 slice medium onion, finely chopped1 tablespoon snipped parsleyFresh Herb dressing (recipe follows)8 ounces wide noodles¼ cup crumbled feta cheese (1 ounce)In mixing bowl, combine meat, tomato, cucumber, green pepper, onion and parsley. Toss with Fresh Herb Dressing. Cover & chill thoroughly.Cook pasta (per package instructions), drain & rinse with cold water & drain again. Continue rinsing & draining till pasta is well chilled.Turn cooked pasta into a salad bowl. Spoon meat-dressing mixture atop pasta. Sprinkle with crumbled feta cheese. Toss. Makes 2 servings.Fresh Herb Dressing:In a screw-top jar, combine ¼ cup salad oil; 3 tablespoons dry white wine; 2 tablespoons lemon juice; 1 tablespoon sugar; 2 teaspoons fresh snipped basil or ½ teaspoon dried basil, crushed; ¼ teaspoon salt; 1/8 teaspoon pepper; and several dashes bottled hot pepper sauce. Cover & shake well.
Sounds delicious!
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I like the lack of seeds on the last one. Did you remove some before the pic?
Nope! It had very few seeds when I cut it the rest of the way open, just a tiny cluster of them at the top, under the stem.
The cucumber is amazing! I really want to try a cucumber when my Farm 12 XL is free again. (For now, it is producing eggplants.) What kind of cucumber is it? Those are perfect jalapenos. I love the colorful, cornucopia-like photo.
The cucumbers are mini munch from territorial seeds
Thanks--I couldn't find it in the thread. I know you told us, because I ordered the seeds already!
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Just tasted one of the teeny lemon spice jalapeños, and now I REALLY can’t wait for the full-sized version to ripen up!! Very sweet, with a very pleasant kick of heat. I LOVE the sweet/spicy combo, and if the full-sized peppers are the same I’m sure I’ll be growing it over and over!
Is that the NuMex Lemon Spiced Jalapeno?
It is! I love the colors they’ve bred, I’ve got seeds for the NuMex orange spice and pumpkin spice peppers too. I’ve grown them before, but it was the garden that got destroyed by thrips so I only got a nibble of a sadly deformed and tiny pumpkin spice pepper before having to terminate everything.
I want to grow the yellow some time. The Pumpkin was a bust because of my air conditioner. But this time last year I grew the orange spiced pretty successfully.
maskedsonnet, your harvests are a joy to behold! Wish I could start some of the lemon spice jalapenos now... And mike, your pumpkin spiced may someday make it to my table. I need more growing space!
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maskedsonnet, the cucumber must have known that its days were numbered! It's really hard to take out any plant that is still producing. Your harvested cucumbers are lovely.
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Way cool!
Fantastic! Those peppers look longer than the Jalapeno M normally are. I need to go after mine this weekend. They are each tight spheres of dense compact leaves right now. Lots of blooms, though.
What beautiful peppers. It makes me happy just to see the pictures. And you get to eat them! I share your anticipation.
Great looking peppers. AS for starting new gardens, I get like that too. Always want to keep what I have but land up ending early if there was something else I wanted to try.
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Lovely harvest! You really did have a run of problems. Ouch at the time, inconvenience and money spent. And I share your opinion of Windows. That's why, as soon as I retired and had no use for a powerful computer, I switched to an Android tablet. It's great for what I do -- and no more Microsoft!
You had quite the day(s). I am sorry but glad in the end all is better now.
Oh, dear! That's a lot going on! Glad that it is in the rearview mirror now! Job interviews? Your harvest looks wonderful!!
Yes! I’ve been trying to move around/move up within my company for the past 5 years - I actually went back and counted 90 jobs I’ve applied for within the company since 2016 and was only given an interview for 3. So the past month or so I’ve been applying for jobs with other companies and so far I’ve already had 2 interviews and 2 offers to interview that came in the middle of vacation that I wasn’t able to do, out of the 10 that I applied for. Much better odds there! Hate to leave after investing 8 years in this place, but I’m hella bored here too! Time for something new
Good plan! When we spend so much time doing something, being bored can be very hard...and detrimental too! Wishing you wisdom to make the very best choices!
Hi, how pleased are you with your Pot-A-Penos and are you still growing them? You have a wonderful garden here. How tall did the Pot-A-Peno's get?
Let me say I wish you luck in your venture of going up in your job or finding a new one.4
I am! They're the front two plants on the pepper side of my Farm. They're about 20" tall and covered up in peppers right now! Very pleased with the production and flavor both
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Woo hoo! Looks like the makings of some tasty meals there! Yum!
One of these days I have to try cukes. I think I started them once, but I know I never harvested any cukes.
Congratulations on your bountiful harvests!
If you do them, I can't recommend the Mini Munch from Territorial highly enough!! They have done GREAT, and they're parthenocarpic so you don't have to worry about fertilization. The cucumbers they produce are sweet and thin skinned, absolutely delicious!
I'll have to get some of those seeds. Your photos are terrific--especially the one with the harvested cukes.
Nice harvest you have there. Isn't it great to eat and use what you grow.
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Nice!
Another mouth-watering display! And the cucumbers were a lovely surprise!
Those look terrific. How do the jalapenos taste. Normal heat for a jalapeno? I haven't grown this variety before until now.
The jalapeños were good! Pretty generic jalapeño flavor, which is always welcome but nothing to get really excited over. Had them with some chicken, the spice is about what I expect from a jalapeño - maybe a little on the ‘less spicy’ end but still a good level for a jalapeñoI was a little concerned that these were going to stay a little on the thin side, but the pods fattened up nicely in the last week or so before I picked them and became a good size for poppers, my favorite thing to do with peppers!
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Very nice! Looks like it might be time to make some Cowboy Candy!
The jalapeno blooms are amazing!
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What an amazing success! I am seriously impressed!
Bravo maskedsonnet! Very impressive! Can't wait to see more pictures and I look forward to the future zuke garden too!
That looks delicious. Great job!
Zucchini, maskedsonnet? You can grow zucchini? What a great idea!I plan to follow in your footsteps re the cucumbers, when I get the Farm XL free again. 🙂
Not sure! I’ve never done any type of squash in an AG, but if you can do cukes I assume you can also do zucchini’s! it’ll be fun to find out, even if it fails
There is a mini variety of zucchini caled Astia. I have some seeds, but never planted them because some people had trouble with their setting fruit. If you try it and like it, I will try some of my seeds. But I'll let you be the guinea pig!
Those sound very interesting...Renee's Garden has seeds. It sounds like they mature at 6-7 inches long. I wonder what the little "baby" zucchini might be called? Does anyone know? You know, the kind the sell sometimes at the supermarket. Those are so fun! And the pattypan ones too!
When I have grown squash in the past, I have just picked them when they were small instead of letting them grow full size. They are so tender and good. I have also grown patty pan just because they were fun and different. But the squash borers have gotten so bad around here that they kill the plants no matter what advice I follow. I used to be able to get one batch of squash before the plant died. Now the plants die before they even start setting fruit. That's why I bought the Astia seeds so I could grow them indoors. But from other people's experience, they produce all male flowers first and by the time the female flowers appear, there are no male flowers left to pollinate them. I did research how to dry the male parts in silica gel and freeze them until the female flowers appeared. But that was more effort than I wanted to mess with.
Interesting!! Squash bugs killed my buttercup squashes this year too, when I left for surgery the plants looked a little sad, but I didn’t really examine them - just assumed it was the heat. But when I got home and well enough to take a closer look, MAYBE a week and a half later, the plants were dead and covered in an unholy number of bugs, so gross!!! So looking forward to indoor experiments. Having to deal with gendered flowers does sound like a pain, so I’m hoping the parthenocarpic varieties I bought to play with stay small enough for my machine! Otherwise I may look at rigging up something bigger when I have more time to actually build something.
Oh, yuck! The squash bug invasion sounds horrible!I have seen parthenocarpic zucchini seeds for sale. Apparently some of them perform a lot better than others. But I don't have room for those projects indoors.
I never heard of a squash bug. We have a ton of Kissing Bugs here. They do not bite but can carry diseases. I actually have the exterminator coming to spray. While I would not bother normally I do not need Piper getting a hold of one or one coming in the house. I have had to catch and release a couple stink bugs, gross bug too!
I never heard of kissing bugs, but stink bugs are horrible.
I’d never heard about kissing bugs until this year, but I keep seeing warnings about them when I scroll through news headlines. They look distressingly like squash bugs, enough that I’d have to get uncomfortably close to them to tell the difference. Yuck!!
I've never heard of the kissing bugs either! Yuck!!! We do have stink bugs. Mikey has learned to grab any invaders with a wet paper towel.
All about kissing bugs and Chagas disease:kissingbug.tamu.edu/I'd heard of them, but not about their causing disease. I don't think that I've ever seen one.
Well, that certainly rules out a future home in about 1/2 the country, for me! Ugh!
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Look at those cukes and peppers. Gardens look nice and tidy too!
Wow! Very nice...and the blossoms look pretty tasty too.
That is so exciting, maskedsonnet. I am impressed with your success!
maskedsonnet, your cucumbers and jalapeños are amazing. I love the photos. Looking at everyone's gardens here is a treat--especially when my own gardens are mostly in the "just planted" stage.
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Loaded!? I'll say! Good job!
Loaded is right! LOTS of peppers on the way!
WOW, they are LOADED! WTG!
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maskedsonnet, you are definitely back into Farming! Looks beautiful!
I second that
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Oh, dear! Fingers crossed!
The peppers look great. Hope the cucumbers revive after the feeding.
maskedsonnet, The cucumber looks like it has edema (because of the dry leaf edges and the dots of waxy stuff). My banana pepper gets that when the leaves are too thick for ventilation, but it hasn't hurt the production. The pepper plant is helped by pruning, but the affected leaves don't need to come off, except for maybe the worst ones.Here's a link to a good article about edema, its causes, and treatment. Nutrients (too much, too little, or wrong kind) can be a cause.www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/environmental/treating-edema-in-plants.htm
Lots of flowers on the peppers
maskedsonnet, that article was good. Thanks for the link.
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This is good news....and, since you are home, that's good news too!?
It is!! Still pretty sore and can't really bend. And even if I was allowed to lift anything heavy I certainly wouldn't want to!! But glad I got this done and even gladder to be back in my own space to heal the rest of the way!! I'm very grateful to my parents for how much they took care of me and helped me with all this, but the DRAMA that pretty much always surrounds my brother (who still lives with them) is unbearable sometimes!
Oh, dear. Well, sounds like you'll heal a bit easier in your own space. Peace and the puppies! Hang in there! You'll be past all of this in no time!!
Well, except for the drama, I am glad things worked out so well.
Yes, peace and puppies!! They always have a blast with Mom and Dad's dog, but I can always tell when we come home that they're glad to be alone together again. Hermes thinks Aurora's his mommy and takes up all her time, it's so funny watching Prince get jealous over it!
Dogs are funny! I think Cadie is still mad at our friends' doggies for leaving after staying with us while the friends vacationed. She loved them...they left her...
Glad you're home and feeling better. Your cucumber plant sure looks happy that you're back!
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How fun & she really is growing!!
It looks like she is reaching for the sky!
You make me feel better about my pepper garden discovery this a.m. I've been wondering why the two plants weren't forming more blooms, and finally looked inside at the water level. It was way, way down despite showing "Full" on the touchscreen. If I have time today, I'll see whether I can clear the roots out of the float! 🙂Your cucumber progress reports are fascinating. Cucumbers are something else that I need to try. What kind of cucumber is it?What I'd most like to do is grow spinach, but my research indicates it isn't really possible in an Aerogarden.
I’ve done that a few times too! Always a sad surprise to find an empty water tank when the sensor shows full
You could try Perpetual Spinach (Swiss Chard). Not spinach, really, but you may like it! Sher recommended it to me.
lynnee, I have read of people having success growing spinach by pre-sprouting them between 2 wet paper towels in a zip lock bag. Then when the seeds sprout, transfer them to a well soaked sponge. If you really want to grow spinach, it might be worth a try.
Yessss! I'll definitely give that a try!
Maybe someday I'll give spinach a shot too! It might be something I enjoy if homegrown - there are several veggies that I can't stand bought at a grocery store but looooove to eat homegrown, because the taste is so different. I've never really liked spinach, my parents don't really like it, and none of us have tried growing it. I think it'd be a fun experiment two ways - see if I can make it grow, and if so see if I actually like the flavor!! Maybe a winter project
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Glad you caught that!
Yes, they are greedy little climbers that will latch onto anything. Glad you caught it in time.
Do you think you should put up a barrier between the two sides? Cardboard or something prettier? At least until they find other stuff to latch onto?
It probably wouldn’t hurt, just to make sure she doesn’t misbehave like that again. I have some nice cloth that I could hang there, I bet that’d be enough to keep it off the peppers since I’m now providing other things to climb up.
I remember when I try to train my tendrils to grow a certain way. They had a mind of their own and said nope I am not listening LOL
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I've grown cucumbers, but only outside and not for a long, long time. To tell you the truth, we didn't pay much attention to them. Just planted them & tired to keep up with harvesting them. They went nuts...along with the zucchini we used to grow. We would give away to neighbors and whatever we couldn't give away around the house, we would take over to the American Legion. So, sorry!!! I'm not much help. My gut says, you are likely right, take them off and let the plant mature. But wait for someone else's input!!!
No, campingcorgis, don't pinch off the babies As for cucumber leaves the bottom leaves often look bad. I have not been successful growing cucumbers in an AG but others have. Do a search to see their projects.
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It really did!
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Sometimes, I think maybe I should make a check list!?
it might help!!
I havr done that so many times LOL
It's a good thing that the Farm's lights are bright enough to keep the plants going even when they are too high!
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Nice! Amazing how quickly they come to life!
I am going to enjoy following your cucumbers!
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I think they are trying to make up for the "down" time! Or, fess up! What are you feeding them?
Good ol AG nutes!
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I'll say! That's great!
That grew quite a bit.
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That helmet looks like it would easily slide off with a gentle tug!
I bet so! I’m gonna try when I get home in the morning, I was in such a hurry to get going to work yesterday that I snapped the pic and ran out without even noticing the helmet until I looked at the photo after things settled at work! And now I’m staring at the wall here wishing they would let me work from home lol
That was fast. Yay