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Red Heirloom Cherry Tomatoes: Repeated Indoor Harvests

Grow log by Kate · Original thread

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CropTomato
VarietyRed Heirloom Cherry Tomato
Methodindoor hydroponics
Equipmentlarge AeroGarden, adjustable grow light, shaker siphon, TDS/PPM meter
Plants3
AudienceAdvanced

What you can learnAn unusually continuous tomato diary documenting dense growth, pollination, PPM management, nutrient changes, multiple bumper crops, and senescence.

Actions:4 Harvest3 Pruning3 Equipment3 Nutrients2 Solution1 Pollination
Useful practices
  • topping plants early
  • vibrating flowers for pollination
  • monitoring PPM
  • using a siphon for water changes
  • feeding and supplementing after water changes
  • raising lights as plants grew
  • trimming old foliage and late flower clusters
  • harvesting repeated crops over many months
Problems encountered
  • extreme canopy density and crowding
  • very high water demand
  • initially low PPM
  • difficulty accessing plants for pollination and harvest
  • late-stage leaf drying and plant ageing

*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.

Day 240
UPDATE#25
Grower update

Update #25

K By Kate

I mentioned awhile ago that this last set of tomatoes are larger than the last. While they're not all this large, you can see the difference between a "super sweet" grape tomato from the store, and one from the Red Heirloom. It's close to a golf ball in size, and just as yummy as ever.
Conversation
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Shawn

I'd say a huge difference~

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MaryL

Amazing. Do you notice any difference in flavor at all this far down the road?

K
Kate

None at all. These really are absolutely worth growing.

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tomz

Newbie here. I just read your 10-page report on the heirloom tomatoes. Wow. If it isn't too much trouble, can you summarize what you did as far as nutrients (AG nutrients, GH Flora, and CaliMagic)? I.e., how much of each did you add and when? Did you drain and refill weekly? Whatever you did, it obviously worked. I guess I'm looking for a debrief so that I can attempt to replicate what you did. Thank you in advance and congratulations on a very impressive result.

K
Kate

I actually just followed the recommended application for the Flora Series and the CALiMAGic. I only water with a gallon of mixed nutrients in distilled water, never plain water, and feed/water every other day, as they all need a top-off by then. I'd used the AG Nutes the first several weeks. You can see in my posts where I switched after checking the TDS and discovered my plants, (tomato and pepper), were dangerously low in nutrients. As far as maintenance, I'm lazy, so please don't follow me on that. I only change water once a month or so. That's not even remotely recommended. My plants suck up so much water that I felt the changeover was adequate, but again, don't do what I do on that front. Animals, domesticated and wild, have always trusted me and I love them. I've always had good luck with plants, and feel I can sense the life in them. I'm probably insane, but I think that's part of it. I think of living creatures as friends, and treat them that way. I talk to them, and I think they respond to it. It's a scientific fact that plants communicate. I also literally hug trees. I feel most at home among nature. Not something very scientific, LOL! Feel free to disregard that last paragraph. Needless to say, I digress.

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tomz

Thanks for the reply. I guess if I'm going to grow tomatoes, I need a meter.

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drbanks

I find the flora series nutes to be especially effective with nightshades (and some sort of Ca-Mg supplement is essential), and yes, when they really get going, they need about 3-4 gallons of water a week just to keep from drying out.

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Shawn

How are your tomatoes? Are they still going strong?

S
Shawn

tomz, did you ever start your tomatoes? How are they doing?

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basil

Hi Kate!Thank you so much for sharing your tomato journey.I've just planted two of these in my Bounty. I was wondering if you could clear some stuff up for me?Did you ever prune the roots? Have issues with the roots and the pump?For the food, I understand you switched to flora + calimagic, how do you combine those two? (e.g. is calimagic an additional thing you add on top of flora?). I have zero experience with flora, mooch, etc. Are the AG nutrients sufficient if I add calimagic on top of the AG nutrients? I'm not too worried about the brown color, as I add a little hydrogen peroxide (did this with my herb garden) to prevent rot and such.Any other tips would be most welcome.Thank you again!

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Shawn

Hello and Welcome to the forum basil While I have not grown tomatoes let me see if I can assist at all. Roots: Normally roots do not need to be trimmed. However if they get out of control and are filling the water bowl and getting into the pump, many have trimmed the roots. Just do not go too crazy. Also what I found in my pepper plants, is I turn them every couple of days as the plant is still controllable to turn. This forms a soft root ball and helps control the roots somewhat.Calimagic: Also known here are Mr. Mooch, Calcium Supplement of Calimag. This is added in addition to the nutrients. You can find some info on this here. You do not want to add a calcium supplement too early. Members usually wait until at least 30 days in from planting to do so.Nutrients: Many use the AG nutes for everything. However some do venture off to using the Flora Series as well as others. Our member drbanks was kind enough to type up a GH Flora Series 101 here. She explains how to use and mix, etc. NOTE: Nutrients is different and separate from any other added supplements like Calimag. I hope this has helped some.PS, also check out Growing Guide and Tips for Tomatoes

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drbanks

Wow. Sorry I haven't been around lately, but yes, I love that breed of tomatoes, and I've had very good luck with both the GH Nutes and CaliMagic. Usually, I figure when it starts setting blossoms is a good time to add the Calimag, or maybe a little sooner. Mostly, wait until it starts looking like a real plant.

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drbanks

You know, I've planted a lot of different tomato varieties in my aerogardens and have mostly had success each time (except for that one time some cultivar of cherry toms I can no longer remember literally took over my dining room table).Of all of them, I still find the AG Red Heirloom to be my favorite by far. I can usually count on getting three rounds of toms from a single plant, although others have certainly gone longer than that. Anymore, I just put one pod in a Harvest, or maybe two in a larger Aerogarden and let the thing get its freak flag on. The only problem I have is that I find them so delicious that I usually pick them about 15 seconds after they've ripened. It would be nice to have a big bowl of them, and the yield is certainly there, but I just can't resist eating them as soon as I can.

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MaryL

Hi Dawn! Great to see you! I myself am just now catching up here after an unintentional hiatus. Hope all is well.

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basil

Sorry realized I didn't reply! Thank you for the advice.Tomato plants seem to be doing quite well so far.

Day 239
UPDATE#24
Grower update

Update #24

Actions taken

HarvestPicked ripe tomatoes during the final crop.

K By Kate

I was picking ripe tomatoes and thought maybe I should take an image, as there won't be many more before these will be nothing but a memory. There are still a lot of green ones. They're trying to set new flowers, which makes me feel so guilty, but it's time. They've got some leaves drying now. It's tired. G-d Bless these lovely plants that gave us so much. I know I'm a freak getting emotionally invested in plants, but there it is.
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MaryL

I so get the feeling guilty, Kate. I’m going through that with my uber mature chives right now, which have even sent up a couple of blossoms (not good in herbs for those that don’t know). It’s time, but I can’t bring myself to end these plants which are still very happy and robust. Not as bad as the more invested tomato situation I know, but I still get it. We’ve had a good run with our gardens...

S
Shawn

Just think, these can all be restarted

Day 232
UPDATE#23
Grower update

Update #23

Actions taken

HarvestHarvested ripe tomatoes the previous week.
PruningClipped off new buds late in the plant cycle.

K By Kate

My babies are starting to show their age, but they have a LOT of clusters of big tomatoes. I took several that were ripe last week. You can see them better now that they're starting to change color. They want to set new buds, but I'm clipping them off. I need to clean them up somewhat, too. Lazy.
Day 214
UPDATE#22
Grower update

Update #22

K By Kate

The never ending tomato plants! Lots of tomatoes and still more flowers! I took this basically in the center of the mass.
Conversation
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Shawn

I see lots of green with a few red gems peeking thru

K
Kate

Yes, I plucked those after the pic. I ate several for lunch and will roast the rest with onions, garlic cloves, Tequila Sunrise peppers, zucchini and baby bella mushrooms for dinner tonight. Nummers.

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drbanks

Nom nom nom

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Unknown

Great toms, BUT every time I see this thread under Recent Posts I think it is Shawn's toms even though she said she never grew toms. Is that because Shawn started the thread for Kate when she first joined?

K
Kate

Exactly, yes.

U
Unknown

What a success!

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MaryL

So thrilled for your success on this project. Tell me, do you often trim a lot of foliage, or do you just let it do it’s thing?

S
Shawn

One day @cornne, One day (maybe )

K
Kate

I did a lot when it was younger. Now I just remove old stuff and superfluous branches with no buds.

Day 194
UPDATE#21
Grower update

Update #21

K By Kate

If you zoom in, you can see dozens of tomatoes and flowers. I think this angle shows most of it.
Conversation
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Shawn

Very nice! You are doing well with this.

M
MaryL

I know I’ve said it before, but you’ve got a bionic plant there!

K
Kate

My husband says it will take over the house soon. One plus is that the tomatoes are getting really big this time. The few ripe ones I ate yesterday were easily golf ball size.

M
MaryL

That’s fantastic. I thought they usually get smaller with each successive group.

S
Shawn

Between Kate's tomatoes and drbanks Peppers ... both having a wonderful go at it.

Day 179
UPDATE#20
Grower update

Update #20

K By Kate

It's so dense, you really can't see the new tomatoes, green on green, but here's an updated image.
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MaryL

It’s a winner

Day 169
UPDATE#19
Grower update

Update #19

K By Kate

Third and likely final set of fruit. Once again, it's covered with tomatoes and flowers. From flowering to setting of fruit to ripe, really accelerates in these subsequent rounds. I think it's the food.
Conversation
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Shawn

Well you are doing something right

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Unknown

and still going since february?!! Have you had much browning of the leaves considering the age? It appears to be all verdant! What and how much are you feeding this crop at this stage?

K
Kate

I just refill all of the machines with the premixed GH Flora and CALiMAGic. They shed some leaves and small branches at the bottom, but honestly not that much, considering their age.

M
MaryL

I agree, I think it’s what you’re feeding them. This is what inspired me to give the Flora a try. Just starting out, but hopeful I can replicate.

K
Kate

You've got miles more experience with AG's than I do, so I'm sure tweaking your feeding with be a snap.

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drbanks

Wonderful!

S
Shawn

Are these still producing?

K
Kate

Oh yes. They're covered with new baby tomatoes and have started several more bud clusters on the newest growth. I think they got wind of my plans to terminate, even though I was pretty careful to not say it out loud, within leaf-shot. I'll take a pic again tomorrow when I take the final of the Fairy Garden. As I'd said, I'll wait until this last set is harvested before I do terminate. It will likely be 9+ to 10 months old by then. They turned 8 months on the 16th.I'd follow through today, but I have to go out this morning, and I have a feeling I'll be in rough shape by the time I get home. I'm still pretty sick, and my moderate insomnia has been ramping up since ragged breathing and hacking up a lung takes up most of my otherwise normal sleeping time. I'm exhausted.

Day 148
UPDATE#18
Grower update

Update #18

K By Kate

They're covered with tiny new bud clusters, as well as tomatoes in different stages of growth.
Conversation
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Shawn

Sooo, whatcha gonna do? BTW looks good.

K
Kate

I'm going to let it do one more setting, with the buds that have formed. Some already have flowers. It was really fast, this last crop. From budding to ripe went much faster than with the first crop. I think General Hydroponics products are what really gets the credit.

Day 140
UPDATE#17
Grower update

Update #17

Actions taken

HarvestCollected another morning tomato harvest.

K By Kate

Jul 12, 2018 17:10:47 GMT -5 MaryL said:Im so thrilled for you that you’ve had such unparalleled success with this garden! Since this was my first larger AG, I'm glad too. Had it been a depressing bust, I might not have obsessed enough to buy two more, (so far). I think I partly got lucky. I will say until the last two years, I've grown at least three different kinds of tomatoes in my greenhouse, and always have amazing success. Tomatoes and I are old friends. I love them like Mike loves his peppers. They make great BLT's, BTW. John, (the hubs), laughed until he was crying watching me halve my cherry toms for a thick sandwich, until I made him one. He said it was the best BLT he'd ever had. That wiped the smirk off his face, LOL.This morning's haul.
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drbanks

The tomato whisperer!

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MaryL

I love it!

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Kate

I'm thinking of ending this after the rest finish growing and coloring up. They're huge, and I really cant let them get much bigger. I've gotten so many great tomatoes from these plants. I've picked the ripe, there are several almost ripe, and several still green. They're wanting to grow more and add more flowers, but I'd like to start something new. I know it sounds cruel, especially since they've been so giving and lovely. I'm torn, but I do want to do more projects.

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MaryL

You've had them over 5 months and they've really given you a fabulous run, so don't feel guilty. Just do it! Pick the ripening ones, and maybe even some green ones and experiment with fried green cherry tomato halves.

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drbanks

I know how you feel. Great is great, but there's always the next project to look forward to!

K
Kate

I feel better now. I was feeling like a murdering monster. Of course, after I cut a bunch of new, long branches that hadn't topped with a cluster, a whole bunch of clusters appeared everywhere else. As it's grown by adding new tiers, it sheds lower, old, non-producing branches, one level at a time. It's like a snake producing it's new, shiny skin. I just can't kill it yet.

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MaryL

Maybe you should keep going just until these new flowers produce fruit, then terminate. Because this is an amazingly prolific garden. As you’ve said, it may be due to your tailored nutes, but it also may be a very rarely extra vigorous seed. And your next kit may not produce like this, great nutes or no. Who knows. It’s a tough call, I know.

K
Kate

I know how it's going to be. Every time one crops ends, another will start. Pretty soon it will need it's own house.

S
Shawn

HA, I need another house to house all my machines LOL

Day 134
UPDATE#16
Grower update

Update #16

Actions taken

HarvestPicked a large batch of ripe cherry tomatoes.

K By Kate

I forgot to take a pic of the massive amount I picked two days ago, (and gobbled up between roasting and snacking), so I thought I'd take a pic of this load. There's at least two cups here, and still lots more almost ready and still green. I love these plants! I don't know how much longer they'll last, but I'm so pleased that they've been so large, tasty and prolific for this long.
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Shawn

Looks yummy and there are a lot there.

U
Unknown

Kudos! Thunderous Applause.

M
mike

Delicious

K
Kate

Absolutely delicious

M
MaryL

Im so thrilled for you that you’ve had such unparalleled success with this garden!

Day 123
UPDATE#15
Grower update

Update #15

K By Kate

Again, major growth explosion with the Flora Series & CALiMAGic. I let these go nuts with long branches. I probably shouldn't have but they would grow seemingly overnight and then covered with buds, so I couldn't bear to chop them. This crop is larger than the last, and the tomatoes are getting quite a bit larger. This image is only part of the mass. I wanted to center the image somewhat.I do want to say that I'm sorry I've been absent lately. I've been busy and enjoying the summer this year. Lots of boating & fishing, which I love.
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mike

Those look wonderful.

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drbanks

So many toms.So much envy!

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Shawn

I still say someday I will try a tomato plant.

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drbanks

Can't believe you haven't yet

K
Kate

Well, unless I just happened to get a FrankenKit, it's a mass producer that's easy to grow. This kit has definitely more than paid for itself, and has been a joy to care for. I'm not sure why people don't like this kit so much, or why they have problems. I didn't fuss over it, other than being concerned that the feeding instructions might be just a bit too generalized, and changing how much, and what I feed. Clearly, my "vast Aerogarden experience" had ZERO to do with it. I hope they continue to do well. I don't know if I'll go another round or not. It depends on how they look after this crop, and if it starts setting buds right away again.

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Shawn

LOL, I know, right?

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drbanks

As I keep saying, it's my favorite of all the types of tomatoes, cherry or otherwise, that I've ever tried growing. This is a high-reward kit.

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cheddachasa

I must have dwarfed mine but they’re producing so I’m happy.

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MaryL

I’ve had them get big and I’ve had them stay about 12” high. I have no idea why.

K
Kate

That's good to know for any future projects of these I grow.

Day 108
UPDATE#14
Grower update

Update #14

K By Kate

I took just one of the tomato plants this morning. They're covered again, and have lots of baby tomatoes and closing flowers getting ready to set fruit. They're so big it's hard to take pics that would show the scope without having to stand far away and lose the tomatoes in the foliage. I've noticed the tomatoes themselves seem to be uniformly larger, this time.
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drbanks

So envious. I haven't been growing any cherry toms since the apartment disaster. At least now, I have a regular cleaning service to pick up after me, so I've been thinking of replanting the Farm Plus.

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Shawn

Go thru my seeds if you want anything. I have an AG kit of Mighty Minis that I never used if you want them. I do not know anything about them however.

K
Kate

I really think the CALiMAGic has a lot to do with t. Also, tomatoes and peppers need about 2.5-3x the amount of food including the CALiMAGic that AG recommends, especially when heavily blooming and growing fruit.

Day 94
UPDATE#13
Grower update

Update #13

K By Kate

Here's a couple updated pics of the blossoms and buds for round two. More bud clusters every day. Taken at an angle for the first one, and the second is right in the middle of the three. I seriously recommend growing these tomatoes.
Conversation
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Kate

Well, the second wave is going to be huge again. In addition to "normal" branching, here are a number of long branches that I probably should have cut, but I'm a sucker for bud...I mean buds , and every single one was covered with them, so I just couldn't bring myself to hack them off. I may regret it when they're heavily loaded, but I'll just tie them, if necessary. I really do have to say that this Red Heirloom Cherry Tomato is amazing. Another plus is that after picking, they stay fresh and sweet for a long time on the counter. What's not to like?!

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MaryL

I’ve never seen this kit produce as well, I hafta say. Perhaps at the end of the plants’ lives you can save some seeds and replant, because these are some supercharged genetically blessed specimens. There’s some kind of protocol with drying seeds, but I’m thinking that might only be in cases of saving them to plant the following summer outside, which requires some degree of proper preservation. If you just replant it right away you’ll probably be golden. Err, red, lol. Just like Corinne popped a super market cherry in her mouth and promptly planted the seeds to experiment. Plant came right up no problem. That could be a really fun reprise experiment.

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mike

Nice

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Kate

That's a good idea. As much fun as I'm having, I'm sure I'll want to try something new when these are done, so maybe preserving seeds is a good idea!.

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MaryL

That’s true, you’ll want to move on to your bounty of new pepper seeds! So here’s a decent primer for you to save the tomato seeds for next winter, or next spring. www.thespruce.com/how-to-save-tomato-seeds-1403292And there are countless other sites. Save me some for us too, lol!! Kidding, lol. Enjoy the process. d45692

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Kate

It looks stinky, but coming from someone who schlepped her sourdough sponge from one end of the country to another since one year out of high school, I don't have room to talk! I have the descendant of the starter I got from my grandmother when I was about 9, that she had over 90 years, given to her by HER mother from "the old country". It's had a long road! Now THAT'S stinky, LOL.

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MaryL

That is astounding!!! And impressive!!! And oh so special, being the family legacy that it is. Just, WOW! (I think I would’ve totally dropped the ball at some inevitable point. )

K
Kate

I wouldn't dare. The multi-generational haunting would be horrific.

Day 88
UPDATE#12
Grower update

Update #12

Actions taken

EquipmentRaised the grow lights repeatedly as tomatoes and peppers grew.

K By Kate

These guys have doubled in size, vertically, and are covered in buds and flowers again. I have to raise the lights on these and the peppers literally every day. It must be the warm weather, or the CALiMAGic, or both. My husband swears on Saturday evening he actually saw them growing while he was watching TV. I have a padded room ready for him, if he gets violent
Conversation
S
Shawn

They are growing nicely.

M
MaryL

I think you have bionic plants.

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Unknown

That is a great project. I am amazed that there is absolutely no sign of leaf browning and crisping up! Kudos, Gal! (not a golf clap, but THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE)

K
Kate

Oh no, I routinely remove old "branches" with the drying leaves that are naturally sloughing off as the plant replaces with new. They just slip or fall off on their own. That's common with (at least) determinate tomato plants that you allow to keep producing. When I see leaves are drying on a branch, I watch to see when the branch gets loose and take it off, unless I'm slow or it's in a particularly dense area and has fallen off on it's own. It's intensifying now, as they're growing upward, almost making new plants. It's shocking how fast they're growing, and how big they're getting.

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jcosmo

Your project is very inspiring! I have red and yellow heirlooms ready to go as soon as another tall machine becomes available.

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drbanks

I know I should do that, but I keep forgetting.The only good thing about getting old, losing my memory and having a smattering of pseudo-dementia from this winter's dark place is that I at least forget about how much I've come to hate gravity.

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mike

Me too. Getting to my feet after sitting for awhile can be a real challenge.

K
Kate

Getting old sucks.

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Shawn

LOL Tell me about it. The same goes from laying to sitting.

K
Kate

I rest my case.

Day 78
UPDATE#11
Grower update

Update #11

Actions taken

PruningTrimmed old leaves and cluster stalks.
SolutionChanged the reservoir water.
NutrientsFed the tomatoes after changing the water.
EquipmentRaised the lights again for new growth.

K By Kate

As the first bumper crop is finally starting to wind down, and I did some trimming of old leaves and cluster stalks, changed water and fed, there was a big, new growth spurt again, as well as the next round of buds and blossoms forming. Lights raised again. These guys are busy. Gotta love 'em.
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drbanks

I do love them.

K
Kate

They're a pretty great variety. I'm definitely going to do them again. Some people had theirs over a year, and they were still healthy and producing. That's amazing. I'm going to see if I can keep mine going like that. The first crop was easily several quarts. I have a huge, wide, stainless steel mixing bowl I use more than any other bowl in my kitchen. It absolutely would have been 3/4 full, had they all ripened at one time. I still have a big cereal bowl full from picking the last two days. I understand that typically, successive crops produce less. Time will tell. I hope you DO plant half a farm with them. I'd love to watch them grow with you.

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MaryL

Even if your successive crops diminish, your first was so gangbusters that the diminished crops will be like my initial “big” crop, lol.

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drbanks

I think I will plant a half a farm of them, after I've relocated it and given the grow decks and bowls a good cleaning.

K
Kate

LOL...Yikes!

K
Kate

That's great! They are worth the effort for sure. I never anticipated such great yield.

Day 58
UPDATE#10
Grower update

Update #10

K By Kate

Four days later...
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mike

Kate,You should post this photo on the AG Facebook page. They give away AG Seed kits for the best photo of the week, or they used to. You have a real winner, here.

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drbanks

Mouth watering here.

K
Kate

Really? I've seen some pretty impressive grows here.

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mike

Believe me, you have a potential winner. And AG is always looking for new winners. Your garden is terrific.

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Kate

Well, thank you! That's really kind of you to say I did a post with it on their page, not saying for an entry or anything, just to show it and say how great the kit is. I don't know if or what they might do with it.Honestly, I can't find anything at this point to not be thrilled about. I wish everyone had the same experience with it. They really are tasty. I had one fall off today, so I was "forced" to eat it, LOL! We are having a salad probably tomorrow, and I'll likely use what's ripe then.

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MaryL

You are swimming in a sea of beauties! Truly a great project.

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Kate

Not so much after last night. I picked a bowl full and we ate almost all of them. Really tasty!There's still scads almost ready and a ton still to come. A "ton"

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drbanks

envy here.I'm about to replant the left side of my Farm. Maybe it needs to be all red heirlooms.

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Shawn

Will be waiting to see what you do.

Day 54
UPDATE#9
Grower update

Update #9

K By Kate

My weekly update image. Happy plants with lots of ripening tomatoes now!
Conversation
M
MaryL

Wow, you are in for quite a haul! Any ideas how you’re going to use them all besides snack munching?

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Unknown

Beautiful Eye Candy, Kate! Kudos on a wonderful project!

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Kate

I have a yummy tart recipe, salsa, roasting, snacking, salads, halved and in pasta. It depends on how many I get at one time, or close enough that they'll be fresh. They're all different sizes, but many are similarly sized enough that I think I can use them for more than just munching. I'm stoked!

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MaryL

I’m stoked for you! You’ll definitely have to show us pics along the way. Especially of the tart!

Day 47
UPDATE#8
Grower update

Update #8

K By Kate

While this is by no means shows all the plants spreading their monster glory, I did want to get an image close enough that shows most of the tomatoes that are coloring up. I'm so excited I can't stand it!
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drbanks

That looks fantastic!Red with envy here!

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Unknown

Great eye candy! What a lovely, successful project!

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mike

Great crop quantity. Excellent garden.

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Kate

Thanks guys. I don't know if I'm just lucky so far, or if these particular tomato seeds are just amazing. So many people say the Red Heirloom plants don't produce. I can only wonder why they've had this experience. Maybe they only fed them the AG nutes. I seriously doubt it's my words of encouragement

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Kate

I ate my first tomato this morning and it was KILLER! It was juicy, sweet/tart and fat! YUM! I'm so pleased with these tomatoes.

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Shawn

I am glad your first try was a hit.

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drbanks

Sounds like you found out why these are my favorites.

Day 37
UPDATE#7
Grower update

Update #7

Actions taken

NutrientsFed the plants again after measuring low dissolved solids.

K By Kate

Here's a new pic of my babies (from Hell) that are still going nuts. I took this today, so it's a week from the last image. I did go ahead and feed again a few days ago. Even doubled, the TDS/PPM was only at 860, still nowhere near the 1100-1350. They seem happy so far though, so I'm not messing with them any further.
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MaryL

Well they sure do look good.

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Unknown

So these would be going on about 10 weeks and they are FANTASTIC! They seem very happy with that you have been doing! Kudos!

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Kate

I started them on January 16, so they'll be 11 weeks on Tuesday. They do seem happy and healthy. I hope they continue to do well and the tomatoes themselves continue doing so well, AND are tasty!

K
Kate

Thankfully, new flowering appears to have finally stopped and the last of the flowers have closed and are setting fruit. It’s absolutely impossible to even begin to count the number of tomatoes that have set on these plants. Dozens, is as close as I can get. Please remind me next time I do these that two is more than enough, if they all stay healthy, continue to take over my house and all the fruit ripens.

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Shawn

LOL, yes we always say no more then two when planting peppers and or tomatoes.

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Kate

Somebody should tell Aerogrow that. The 7 Pod Kit comes with 3 of these suckers. I got 3, so I started 3. I'll bet they just "yuk it up" back there at the old warehouse, unless their customers get far better growth and yield than they anticipate they will. There is "enough" room, but it's really overkill. It's laughable that people, (who clearly can't read or decipher clear images), complain in Amazon reviews that they didn't get 7 or 9 planted pods to start.

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drbanks

Those are some good looking plants. Yes, max of 2 in a Bounty. In anything smaller, I can also count on one plant to pretty much fill the whole thing if you let it.I love this one the most. I've got a pretty good harvest out of the Golden tomatoes in my Farm Plus, but they just aren't as tasty (to me) as these red cherries.The only problem I have with them is that I keep picking and snacking on them as soon as one ripens, so I never actually get a bowl full from harvesting, and never end up cooking with them or even making a salad.Still, a very nice amuse bouche on my way out the door in the morning.

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Kate

I have a feeling that I'll end up standing in front of the plants shoving tomatoes into my mouth. Not a pretty picture, and greedy too. Muwahahaha!

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drbanks

My boss had one of these planted in an AG, and couldn't figure out why the toms never ripened. Then, one day he caught his daughter picking and eating the ripe ones.Can't blame her. Hard to resist.

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Unknown

My dad used to do that and said he hated the AG because he never gets ripe ones...yet he picked and munched everytime he passed by!

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MaryL

Last summer all my tom projects were outside, and when I’d go out to do my swim I’d pick the ripest and munch on a bunch before getting in the water. I figured I needed the sugar and vitamin C. No wonder I didn’t always have a bowl full for my husband at dinner time.You are going to have a mad harvest! They look great!!

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Kate

Here's hoping. They're not turning color yet, but several are getting quite big, so it should be soon for those.

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Kate

Well, I lied. Like a rug. I have several tomatoes that are just starting to change color. I don't think it's enough to see in an image as yet, but they're definitely starting, compared to the very green of their younger "siblings".

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MaryL

The tide is turning!

Day 29
UPDATE#6
Grower update

Update #6

K By Kate

The plants are COVERED in tomatoes of various sizes with lots more to come. It's amazing. I literally can't get it all in one image. I took this from the side to get most of it in.
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jcosmo

Wow! Looks like a jungle!

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Shawn

These are doing so good, Can't wait to see them all ripening

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Kate

It is a jungle. These plants are nothing like any tomato I've ever grown. Having pretty much zero experience in hydroponics, I don't know if it's the growing medium (water), the food, the Aerogarden, the plant itself (Red Heirloom), or what. I've grown cherry tomatoes many times before, but every tomato plant of any type I've grown, has been taller, sometimes MUCH taller, and MUCH less dense. The images on the Aerogarden site are accurate. These things are like something from a horror movie. Not that I'm complaining. Unless they attack, I'm good.I can't wait either, Shawn. It's exciting. People say they're really tasty.I ordered a TDS PPM meter. I don't know if it's truly necessary, but after reading on this and other forums about sudden, sometimes catastrophic issues likely related to nutrient levels, I'm guessing it's good to know just what's going on.

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Kate

So I need help/suggestions here from the more experienced hydro growers. My TDS/PPM was 32 before I fed. Horribly low. They take SO much water every two days. It's at 560 today (as it was yesterday), after feeding 11ml nutes and scant less than 4ml Calimagic, yesterday. Tomatoes like twice that, but I'm hesitant to add more. Anyone have any suggestions? Should I add more?

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MaryL

I have next to no experience with tailoring nutes to tds so I’m afraid I’m not much help. I’d only try increasing the nutes in small increments. Your garden is looking so good I’d hate to see it nute burned. My question then is where do you start? It’s a little perplexing to me because when I go to measure tds, I have just added nutes and water to the Fill to Here line, so you can’t dilute it more if you add too many nutes.

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Shawn

For me, I have never tested those at all. I used to go nutty checking pH but no longer do that either. I just add the Nutes and Mooch and the gardens seem to do well.

Day 21
UPDATE#5
Grower update

Update #5

Actions taken

SolutionChanged the reservoir water before the growth surge.
NutrientsAdded fresh nutrients and CALiMAGic after the water change.

K By Kate

My tomato plants really went crazy again after their water change and new Nutes and CaliMagic. They literally rose up two inches overnight like a spider standing high on it's legs, and suddenly I have a bunch of baby tomatoes as well as a ton of new flowers and bud clusters. I have a feeling I've created a mini version of Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes. It's exciting to watch. The shaker siphon worked great, BTW. Super fast and easy. I did have to lift the top and tip slightly to get enough depth to prime it. It really sucks!
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mike

Nice...

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Shawn

That is a good pictures of the babies,

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MaryL

Exciting, Kate! I think it’s so phenomenal when they transform dramatically overnight.

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Kate

Thanks guys. For some reason my Mailguard on my gci.net server blocked everything from this site for several days. It never did before. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe Proboards did a change. I whitelisted the site, so here's hoping it's fixed. I thought nobody was posting anything.

Day 17
UPDATE#4
Grower update

Update #4

Actions taken

PollinationVibrated the flowering plants to assist pollination.

K By Kate

Here are my babies today at just over 7 weeks. They're covered in flowers. Some newly opened, some now closing, with a bunch of new bud clusters. I've been vibrating like a fool, so to speak. I'm pretty excited about it.
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mike

They are looking terrific, Kate. But don't overdue the pollinating. You don't want to knock the blooms off.

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jcosmo

That's what I love about growing tomatoes - each new stage is exciting! Seeing the first buds opening, then seeing the first tomatoes forming, then seeing the first tomato that starts to change colors...

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Kate

I actually knocked one off and almost cried. I seriously barely touched it too. I'm guessing it might have been a clunker. The rest seem pretty rugged. I need to do a water change in a few days when it's time to feed again. I'm just going to siphon from a corner and refill. It's way to dense to lift the top off and I'd never forgive myself if I freaked them out or damaged them. I have a shaker/jiggler siphon. Have any of you used one of them in an AG?

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Kate

I can't wait. I never get this involved in my garden or hot house. It's pure insanity.

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jcosmo

If by shaker/jiggler siphon, you mean a tube with a ball in one end and shaking it a few times gets the water to flow, that's what I use. It works well but will try to suck up the roots if I'm not careful. I ordered a battery operated pump that was recommended on the forum, but it turned out to be a dud and by the time I discovered that it didn't work, it was too late to return it.

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Kate

This is similar to what I have. I just hope the water depth is enough to get it started.Hopkins 10801 FloTool Shaker Siphon with 6' Anti-Static Tubing

Day 7
UPDATE#3
Grower update

Update #3

K By Kate

Here's a comparison of exactly one week, from 5.25 weeks to today at 6.25 weeks, It's astonishing how fast they've grown and filled out. It's like a jungle. They are so massive, next time I will do only two plants I think. They should all fit, but pollinating and picking is going to be a PITA.I think CaliMagic is amazing stuff. I'm hooked. BTW, did I mention how much I love these little tomato plants? Seriously, like they're my children. Red Heirloom Cherry Tomato 5.25 weeksRed Heirloom Cherry Tomato 6.25 weeks
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jcosmo

Impressive! I know the feeling... sometimes my plants get more attention than my cats do! I have 4 dwarf tomato varieties growing in AGs and 2 more in soil under a grow light.

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Kate

My cats would maul me if I didn't lavish them with attention, lo.I'd love to compare notes with you as we go on your tomato varieties compared to the Red Heirloom. I want to try several varieties, and would love your input on your impressions of the plants you have.

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Shawn

Nice growth spurt you have going.

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Kate

I'm sure if this was summer and 70-80+ degrees instead of winter waffling between -20 and +30 all the time, they would be even further along. This particular variety isn't as fast as many of the other cherry tomatoes but I'm sure my house kept around 65 degrees has some impact.

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MaryL

I think I used too much of my CaliMagic now, and I did observe a negative reaction which I thought was in my head. Ok, I’m straight now, and will up my supplement game. I’m glad you brought the differences up. Thank you!

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drbanks

Looks like the mooch is a lot heavier on the nitrogen and not as strong on the Ca-Mg. Probably buffers it a lot better. On the other hand, if you have adequate nutrients before adding either, you've already got enough nitrogen in the system.

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drbanks

You know, maybe me, too.I've been using 5mL per gallon of CaliMagic

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mike

All I know is when I switched from the GH product to the Mr. Mucha Stash (Mooch), I had much better results. It is absorbed into the plant in a different manner. I don't know how, but I like the results.

Day 3
UPDATE#2
Grower update

Update #2

K By Kate

So tiny and cute! Here's one easy enough to image.
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MaryL

That’s a fabulous photo. Beautiful.

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Shawn

More lovely fuzzies...

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Kate

Believe it or not, it was taken with my iPhone 7. For a phone camera, the more recent iPhone's aren't all that shabby.

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drbanks

I know others here prefer mooch, but in my experience CaliMagic works wonders with nightshades of all kinds. I've seen one dose kick a plant that's doing essentially nothing into sprouting dozens of blossoms overnight.

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Kate

That was my experience. The massive growth and bud formation was shockingly fast after the first feeding. I fed again on Tuesday and today, just two days later, again an amazing amount of bushing out and more bud clusters. The plants are really sturdy and healthy. Not one leaf has been lost, or shown any damage since starting. I can't complain.

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jcosmo

Wow, that plant is FUZZY! What are the nutrients/proportions in CaliMagic?This is the "Mooch" Guaranteed Analysis:Total Nitrogen (N) 4%Calcium (Ca) 3.8%Magnesium (Mg) 1.2%Iron (Fe) 0.1%

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MaryL

After checking, CaliMagic is the brand I have too. I call it mooch like the other brand because I can’t remember what it’s called, lol. And, I can’t remember to use it either, being a new thing for me. I am missing out.It’s such a big bottle- do you decant some into a smaller bottle to make it easier to use?

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Shawn

Mooch bottle is small enough that I do not do it. I think I also have a bottle of CalMagic and think used it once. I do want to say that Mooch and CalMag have different dispensary tables.Mooch: 2 tsp (or 10ml) for every Gallon (or 4L of water)CalMag: 1 tsp for every Gallon (or 1ml per liter)Looking at that you may need less CalMag then we add Mooch. I am horrible at figuring this out, maybe mike can assist?

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drbanks

depending on how many gallons I'm mixing, I use either a dosing pipette or a graduated cylinder.Guess who was once, a very long time ago, a chem major?

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Kate

This is the CaliMagic Label.1 - 0 - 0GUARANTEED ANALYSISTotal Nitrogen (N).....................................1.0% 1.0% Nitrate NitrogenCalcium (Ca).............................................5.0%Magnesium (Mg)......................................1.5% 1.5% Water Soluble Magnesium Iron (Fe)....................................................0.1% 0.1% Chelated Iron (Fe)Derived from: Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Nitrate, Iron DTPADirections:Use 1ml per liter (1 teaspoon per gallon) for most applicationsI have a quart bottle and use a graduated pipette. I have buckets of them because I decant fragrances, and every time I order decanting supplies, I get freebies of pipettes, cups and funnels. I did 2.5ml the first and second feed. I'll do about 3ml from the next feed on. The large Aerogardens hold 3.2 liters of water when full.

Day 1
UPDATE#1
Grower update

Update #1

Actions taken

PruningTopped the tomato plants shortly after one month.
EquipmentRaised the light hood as the plants grew.

K By Kate

I should probably start my own thread, but since I posted a pic I'd taken of my Red Heirloom Cherry Tomatoes at 3 weeks on this thread, I thought I'd post one of them at 5.25 weeks. I'd topped them just after one month. They've REALLY gone nuts this last week. I raised the hood about a week ago, I think.
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Kate

Thanks Shawn for offering to start my own garden thread! So exciting!

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Shawn

Your welcome!

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MaryL

They look very healthy. You’ll have blossoms soon.

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Kate

I think it said around 12-15 weeks for first harvest, but I could be wrong. They'll be 6 weeks since I started them, on Tuesday. They had a huge growth spurt after I topped them and fed their first CaliMagic. On Tuesday, I feed again. There are lots of new leaves and branches forming and they suck water like mad. I'm really impressed with them.I actually just looked and there are clusters of tiny buds all over the place. I didn't notice them before. How exciting!

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MaryL

Very exciting!

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