Red Heirloom Cherry Tomatoes: Repeated Indoor Harvests
Grow log by Kate · Original thread
What you can learnAn unusually continuous tomato diary documenting dense growth, pollination, PPM management, nutrient changes, multiple bumper crops, and senescence.
Useful practices
- topping plants early
- vibrating flowers for pollination
- monitoring PPM
- using a siphon for water changes
- feeding and supplementing after water changes
- raising lights as plants grew
- trimming old foliage and late flower clusters
- harvesting repeated crops over many months
Problems encountered
- extreme canopy density and crowding
- very high water demand
- initially low PPM
- difficulty accessing plants for pollination and harvest
- late-stage leaf drying and plant ageing
*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.
I'd say a huge difference~
Amazing. Do you notice any difference in flavor at all this far down the road?
None at all. These really are absolutely worth growing.
Newbie here. I just read your 10-page report on the heirloom tomatoes. Wow. If it isn't too much trouble, can you summarize what you did as far as nutrients (AG nutrients, GH Flora, and CaliMagic)? I.e., how much of each did you add and when? Did you drain and refill weekly? Whatever you did, it obviously worked. I guess I'm looking for a debrief so that I can attempt to replicate what you did. Thank you in advance and congratulations on a very impressive result.
I actually just followed the recommended application for the Flora Series and the CALiMAGic. I only water with a gallon of mixed nutrients in distilled water, never plain water, and feed/water every other day, as they all need a top-off by then. I'd used the AG Nutes the first several weeks. You can see in my posts where I switched after checking the TDS and discovered my plants, (tomato and pepper), were dangerously low in nutrients. As far as maintenance, I'm lazy, so please don't follow me on that. I only change water once a month or so. That's not even remotely recommended. My plants suck up so much water that I felt the changeover was adequate, but again, don't do what I do on that front. Animals, domesticated and wild, have always trusted me and I love them. I've always had good luck with plants, and feel I can sense the life in them. I'm probably insane, but I think that's part of it. I think of living creatures as friends, and treat them that way. I talk to them, and I think they respond to it. It's a scientific fact that plants communicate. I also literally hug trees. I feel most at home among nature. Not something very scientific, LOL! Feel free to disregard that last paragraph. Needless to say, I digress.
Thanks for the reply. I guess if I'm going to grow tomatoes, I need a meter.
I find the flora series nutes to be especially effective with nightshades (and some sort of Ca-Mg supplement is essential), and yes, when they really get going, they need about 3-4 gallons of water a week just to keep from drying out.
How are your tomatoes? Are they still going strong?
tomz, did you ever start your tomatoes? How are they doing?
Hi Kate!Thank you so much for sharing your tomato journey.I've just planted two of these in my Bounty. I was wondering if you could clear some stuff up for me?Did you ever prune the roots? Have issues with the roots and the pump?For the food, I understand you switched to flora + calimagic, how do you combine those two? (e.g. is calimagic an additional thing you add on top of flora?). I have zero experience with flora, mooch, etc. Are the AG nutrients sufficient if I add calimagic on top of the AG nutrients? I'm not too worried about the brown color, as I add a little hydrogen peroxide (did this with my herb garden) to prevent rot and such.Any other tips would be most welcome.Thank you again!
Hello and Welcome to the forum basil While I have not grown tomatoes let me see if I can assist at all. Roots: Normally roots do not need to be trimmed. However if they get out of control and are filling the water bowl and getting into the pump, many have trimmed the roots. Just do not go too crazy. Also what I found in my pepper plants, is I turn them every couple of days as the plant is still controllable to turn. This forms a soft root ball and helps control the roots somewhat.Calimagic: Also known here are Mr. Mooch, Calcium Supplement of Calimag. This is added in addition to the nutrients. You can find some info on this here. You do not want to add a calcium supplement too early. Members usually wait until at least 30 days in from planting to do so.Nutrients: Many use the AG nutes for everything. However some do venture off to using the Flora Series as well as others. Our member drbanks was kind enough to type up a GH Flora Series 101 here. She explains how to use and mix, etc. NOTE: Nutrients is different and separate from any other added supplements like Calimag. I hope this has helped some.PS, also check out Growing Guide and Tips for Tomatoes
Wow. Sorry I haven't been around lately, but yes, I love that breed of tomatoes, and I've had very good luck with both the GH Nutes and CaliMagic. Usually, I figure when it starts setting blossoms is a good time to add the Calimag, or maybe a little sooner. Mostly, wait until it starts looking like a real plant.
You know, I've planted a lot of different tomato varieties in my aerogardens and have mostly had success each time (except for that one time some cultivar of cherry toms I can no longer remember literally took over my dining room table).Of all of them, I still find the AG Red Heirloom to be my favorite by far. I can usually count on getting three rounds of toms from a single plant, although others have certainly gone longer than that. Anymore, I just put one pod in a Harvest, or maybe two in a larger Aerogarden and let the thing get its freak flag on. The only problem I have is that I find them so delicious that I usually pick them about 15 seconds after they've ripened. It would be nice to have a big bowl of them, and the yield is certainly there, but I just can't resist eating them as soon as I can.
Hi Dawn! Great to see you! I myself am just now catching up here after an unintentional hiatus. Hope all is well.
Sorry realized I didn't reply! Thank you for the advice.Tomato plants seem to be doing quite well so far.
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I so get the feeling guilty, Kate. I’m going through that with my uber mature chives right now, which have even sent up a couple of blossoms (not good in herbs for those that don’t know). It’s time, but I can’t bring myself to end these plants which are still very happy and robust. Not as bad as the more invested tomato situation I know, but I still get it. We’ve had a good run with our gardens...
Just think, these can all be restarted
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I see lots of green with a few red gems peeking thru
Yes, I plucked those after the pic. I ate several for lunch and will roast the rest with onions, garlic cloves, Tequila Sunrise peppers, zucchini and baby bella mushrooms for dinner tonight. Nummers.
Nom nom nom
Great toms, BUT every time I see this thread under Recent Posts I think it is Shawn's toms even though she said she never grew toms. Is that because Shawn started the thread for Kate when she first joined?
Exactly, yes.
What a success!
So thrilled for your success on this project. Tell me, do you often trim a lot of foliage, or do you just let it do it’s thing?
One day @cornne, One day (maybe )
I did a lot when it was younger. Now I just remove old stuff and superfluous branches with no buds.
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Very nice! You are doing well with this.
I know I’ve said it before, but you’ve got a bionic plant there!
My husband says it will take over the house soon. One plus is that the tomatoes are getting really big this time. The few ripe ones I ate yesterday were easily golf ball size.
That’s fantastic. I thought they usually get smaller with each successive group.
Between Kate's tomatoes and drbanks Peppers ... both having a wonderful go at it.
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It’s a winner
Update #19
Well you are doing something right
and still going since february?!! Have you had much browning of the leaves considering the age? It appears to be all verdant! What and how much are you feeding this crop at this stage?
I just refill all of the machines with the premixed GH Flora and CALiMAGic. They shed some leaves and small branches at the bottom, but honestly not that much, considering their age.
I agree, I think it’s what you’re feeding them. This is what inspired me to give the Flora a try. Just starting out, but hopeful I can replicate.
You've got miles more experience with AG's than I do, so I'm sure tweaking your feeding with be a snap.
Wonderful!
Are these still producing?
Oh yes. They're covered with new baby tomatoes and have started several more bud clusters on the newest growth. I think they got wind of my plans to terminate, even though I was pretty careful to not say it out loud, within leaf-shot. I'll take a pic again tomorrow when I take the final of the Fairy Garden. As I'd said, I'll wait until this last set is harvested before I do terminate. It will likely be 9+ to 10 months old by then. They turned 8 months on the 16th.I'd follow through today, but I have to go out this morning, and I have a feeling I'll be in rough shape by the time I get home. I'm still pretty sick, and my moderate insomnia has been ramping up since ragged breathing and hacking up a lung takes up most of my otherwise normal sleeping time. I'm exhausted.
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Sooo, whatcha gonna do? BTW looks good.
I'm going to let it do one more setting, with the buds that have formed. Some already have flowers. It was really fast, this last crop. From budding to ripe went much faster than with the first crop. I think General Hydroponics products are what really gets the credit.
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The tomato whisperer!
I love it!
I'm thinking of ending this after the rest finish growing and coloring up. They're huge, and I really cant let them get much bigger. I've gotten so many great tomatoes from these plants. I've picked the ripe, there are several almost ripe, and several still green. They're wanting to grow more and add more flowers, but I'd like to start something new. I know it sounds cruel, especially since they've been so giving and lovely. I'm torn, but I do want to do more projects.
You've had them over 5 months and they've really given you a fabulous run, so don't feel guilty. Just do it! Pick the ripening ones, and maybe even some green ones and experiment with fried green cherry tomato halves.
I know how you feel. Great is great, but there's always the next project to look forward to!
I feel better now. I was feeling like a murdering monster. Of course, after I cut a bunch of new, long branches that hadn't topped with a cluster, a whole bunch of clusters appeared everywhere else. As it's grown by adding new tiers, it sheds lower, old, non-producing branches, one level at a time. It's like a snake producing it's new, shiny skin. I just can't kill it yet.
Maybe you should keep going just until these new flowers produce fruit, then terminate. Because this is an amazingly prolific garden. As you’ve said, it may be due to your tailored nutes, but it also may be a very rarely extra vigorous seed. And your next kit may not produce like this, great nutes or no. Who knows. It’s a tough call, I know.
I know how it's going to be. Every time one crops ends, another will start. Pretty soon it will need it's own house.
HA, I need another house to house all my machines LOL
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Looks yummy and there are a lot there.
Kudos! Thunderous Applause.
Delicious
Absolutely delicious
Im so thrilled for you that you’ve had such unparalleled success with this garden!
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Those look wonderful.
So many toms.So much envy!
I still say someday I will try a tomato plant.
Can't believe you haven't yet
Well, unless I just happened to get a FrankenKit, it's a mass producer that's easy to grow. This kit has definitely more than paid for itself, and has been a joy to care for. I'm not sure why people don't like this kit so much, or why they have problems. I didn't fuss over it, other than being concerned that the feeding instructions might be just a bit too generalized, and changing how much, and what I feed. Clearly, my "vast Aerogarden experience" had ZERO to do with it. I hope they continue to do well. I don't know if I'll go another round or not. It depends on how they look after this crop, and if it starts setting buds right away again.
LOL, I know, right?
As I keep saying, it's my favorite of all the types of tomatoes, cherry or otherwise, that I've ever tried growing. This is a high-reward kit.
I must have dwarfed mine but they’re producing so I’m happy.
I’ve had them get big and I’ve had them stay about 12” high. I have no idea why.
That's good to know for any future projects of these I grow.
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So envious. I haven't been growing any cherry toms since the apartment disaster. At least now, I have a regular cleaning service to pick up after me, so I've been thinking of replanting the Farm Plus.
Go thru my seeds if you want anything. I have an AG kit of Mighty Minis that I never used if you want them. I do not know anything about them however.
I really think the CALiMAGic has a lot to do with t. Also, tomatoes and peppers need about 2.5-3x the amount of food including the CALiMAGic that AG recommends, especially when heavily blooming and growing fruit.
Update #13
Well, the second wave is going to be huge again. In addition to "normal" branching, here are a number of long branches that I probably should have cut, but I'm a sucker for bud...I mean buds , and every single one was covered with them, so I just couldn't bring myself to hack them off. I may regret it when they're heavily loaded, but I'll just tie them, if necessary. I really do have to say that this Red Heirloom Cherry Tomato is amazing. Another plus is that after picking, they stay fresh and sweet for a long time on the counter. What's not to like?!
I’ve never seen this kit produce as well, I hafta say. Perhaps at the end of the plants’ lives you can save some seeds and replant, because these are some supercharged genetically blessed specimens. There’s some kind of protocol with drying seeds, but I’m thinking that might only be in cases of saving them to plant the following summer outside, which requires some degree of proper preservation. If you just replant it right away you’ll probably be golden. Err, red, lol. Just like Corinne popped a super market cherry in her mouth and promptly planted the seeds to experiment. Plant came right up no problem. That could be a really fun reprise experiment.
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That's a good idea. As much fun as I'm having, I'm sure I'll want to try something new when these are done, so maybe preserving seeds is a good idea!.
That’s true, you’ll want to move on to your bounty of new pepper seeds! So here’s a decent primer for you to save the tomato seeds for next winter, or next spring. www.thespruce.com/how-to-save-tomato-seeds-1403292And there are countless other sites. Save me some for us too, lol!! Kidding, lol. Enjoy the process. d45692
It looks stinky, but coming from someone who schlepped her sourdough sponge from one end of the country to another since one year out of high school, I don't have room to talk! I have the descendant of the starter I got from my grandmother when I was about 9, that she had over 90 years, given to her by HER mother from "the old country". It's had a long road! Now THAT'S stinky, LOL.
That is astounding!!! And impressive!!! And oh so special, being the family legacy that it is. Just, WOW! (I think I would’ve totally dropped the ball at some inevitable point. )
I wouldn't dare. The multi-generational haunting would be horrific.
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They are growing nicely.
I think you have bionic plants.
That is a great project. I am amazed that there is absolutely no sign of leaf browning and crisping up! Kudos, Gal! (not a golf clap, but THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE)
Oh no, I routinely remove old "branches" with the drying leaves that are naturally sloughing off as the plant replaces with new. They just slip or fall off on their own. That's common with (at least) determinate tomato plants that you allow to keep producing. When I see leaves are drying on a branch, I watch to see when the branch gets loose and take it off, unless I'm slow or it's in a particularly dense area and has fallen off on it's own. It's intensifying now, as they're growing upward, almost making new plants. It's shocking how fast they're growing, and how big they're getting.
Your project is very inspiring! I have red and yellow heirlooms ready to go as soon as another tall machine becomes available.
I know I should do that, but I keep forgetting.The only good thing about getting old, losing my memory and having a smattering of pseudo-dementia from this winter's dark place is that I at least forget about how much I've come to hate gravity.
Me too. Getting to my feet after sitting for awhile can be a real challenge.
Getting old sucks.
LOL Tell me about it. The same goes from laying to sitting.
I rest my case.
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I do love them.
They're a pretty great variety. I'm definitely going to do them again. Some people had theirs over a year, and they were still healthy and producing. That's amazing. I'm going to see if I can keep mine going like that. The first crop was easily several quarts. I have a huge, wide, stainless steel mixing bowl I use more than any other bowl in my kitchen. It absolutely would have been 3/4 full, had they all ripened at one time. I still have a big cereal bowl full from picking the last two days. I understand that typically, successive crops produce less. Time will tell. I hope you DO plant half a farm with them. I'd love to watch them grow with you.
Even if your successive crops diminish, your first was so gangbusters that the diminished crops will be like my initial “big” crop, lol.
I think I will plant a half a farm of them, after I've relocated it and given the grow decks and bowls a good cleaning.
LOL...Yikes!
That's great! They are worth the effort for sure. I never anticipated such great yield.
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Kate,You should post this photo on the AG Facebook page. They give away AG Seed kits for the best photo of the week, or they used to. You have a real winner, here.
Mouth watering here.
Really? I've seen some pretty impressive grows here.
Believe me, you have a potential winner. And AG is always looking for new winners. Your garden is terrific.
Well, thank you! That's really kind of you to say I did a post with it on their page, not saying for an entry or anything, just to show it and say how great the kit is. I don't know if or what they might do with it.Honestly, I can't find anything at this point to not be thrilled about. I wish everyone had the same experience with it. They really are tasty. I had one fall off today, so I was "forced" to eat it, LOL! We are having a salad probably tomorrow, and I'll likely use what's ripe then.
You are swimming in a sea of beauties! Truly a great project.
Not so much after last night. I picked a bowl full and we ate almost all of them. Really tasty!There's still scads almost ready and a ton still to come. A "ton"
envy here.I'm about to replant the left side of my Farm. Maybe it needs to be all red heirlooms.
Will be waiting to see what you do.
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Wow, you are in for quite a haul! Any ideas how you’re going to use them all besides snack munching?
Beautiful Eye Candy, Kate! Kudos on a wonderful project!
I have a yummy tart recipe, salsa, roasting, snacking, salads, halved and in pasta. It depends on how many I get at one time, or close enough that they'll be fresh. They're all different sizes, but many are similarly sized enough that I think I can use them for more than just munching. I'm stoked!
I’m stoked for you! You’ll definitely have to show us pics along the way. Especially of the tart!
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That looks fantastic!Red with envy here!
Great eye candy! What a lovely, successful project!
Great crop quantity. Excellent garden.
Thanks guys. I don't know if I'm just lucky so far, or if these particular tomato seeds are just amazing. So many people say the Red Heirloom plants don't produce. I can only wonder why they've had this experience. Maybe they only fed them the AG nutes. I seriously doubt it's my words of encouragement
I ate my first tomato this morning and it was KILLER! It was juicy, sweet/tart and fat! YUM! I'm so pleased with these tomatoes.
I am glad your first try was a hit.
Sounds like you found out why these are my favorites.
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Well they sure do look good.
So these would be going on about 10 weeks and they are FANTASTIC! They seem very happy with that you have been doing! Kudos!
I started them on January 16, so they'll be 11 weeks on Tuesday. They do seem happy and healthy. I hope they continue to do well and the tomatoes themselves continue doing so well, AND are tasty!
Thankfully, new flowering appears to have finally stopped and the last of the flowers have closed and are setting fruit. It’s absolutely impossible to even begin to count the number of tomatoes that have set on these plants. Dozens, is as close as I can get. Please remind me next time I do these that two is more than enough, if they all stay healthy, continue to take over my house and all the fruit ripens.
LOL, yes we always say no more then two when planting peppers and or tomatoes.
Somebody should tell Aerogrow that. The 7 Pod Kit comes with 3 of these suckers. I got 3, so I started 3. I'll bet they just "yuk it up" back there at the old warehouse, unless their customers get far better growth and yield than they anticipate they will. There is "enough" room, but it's really overkill. It's laughable that people, (who clearly can't read or decipher clear images), complain in Amazon reviews that they didn't get 7 or 9 planted pods to start.
Those are some good looking plants. Yes, max of 2 in a Bounty. In anything smaller, I can also count on one plant to pretty much fill the whole thing if you let it.I love this one the most. I've got a pretty good harvest out of the Golden tomatoes in my Farm Plus, but they just aren't as tasty (to me) as these red cherries.The only problem I have with them is that I keep picking and snacking on them as soon as one ripens, so I never actually get a bowl full from harvesting, and never end up cooking with them or even making a salad.Still, a very nice amuse bouche on my way out the door in the morning.
I have a feeling that I'll end up standing in front of the plants shoving tomatoes into my mouth. Not a pretty picture, and greedy too. Muwahahaha!
My boss had one of these planted in an AG, and couldn't figure out why the toms never ripened. Then, one day he caught his daughter picking and eating the ripe ones.Can't blame her. Hard to resist.
My dad used to do that and said he hated the AG because he never gets ripe ones...yet he picked and munched everytime he passed by!
Last summer all my tom projects were outside, and when I’d go out to do my swim I’d pick the ripest and munch on a bunch before getting in the water. I figured I needed the sugar and vitamin C. No wonder I didn’t always have a bowl full for my husband at dinner time.You are going to have a mad harvest! They look great!!
Here's hoping. They're not turning color yet, but several are getting quite big, so it should be soon for those.
Well, I lied. Like a rug. I have several tomatoes that are just starting to change color. I don't think it's enough to see in an image as yet, but they're definitely starting, compared to the very green of their younger "siblings".
The tide is turning!
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Wow! Looks like a jungle!
These are doing so good, Can't wait to see them all ripening
It is a jungle. These plants are nothing like any tomato I've ever grown. Having pretty much zero experience in hydroponics, I don't know if it's the growing medium (water), the food, the Aerogarden, the plant itself (Red Heirloom), or what. I've grown cherry tomatoes many times before, but every tomato plant of any type I've grown, has been taller, sometimes MUCH taller, and MUCH less dense. The images on the Aerogarden site are accurate. These things are like something from a horror movie. Not that I'm complaining. Unless they attack, I'm good.I can't wait either, Shawn. It's exciting. People say they're really tasty.I ordered a TDS PPM meter. I don't know if it's truly necessary, but after reading on this and other forums about sudden, sometimes catastrophic issues likely related to nutrient levels, I'm guessing it's good to know just what's going on.
So I need help/suggestions here from the more experienced hydro growers. My TDS/PPM was 32 before I fed. Horribly low. They take SO much water every two days. It's at 560 today (as it was yesterday), after feeding 11ml nutes and scant less than 4ml Calimagic, yesterday. Tomatoes like twice that, but I'm hesitant to add more. Anyone have any suggestions? Should I add more?
I have next to no experience with tailoring nutes to tds so I’m afraid I’m not much help. I’d only try increasing the nutes in small increments. Your garden is looking so good I’d hate to see it nute burned. My question then is where do you start? It’s a little perplexing to me because when I go to measure tds, I have just added nutes and water to the Fill to Here line, so you can’t dilute it more if you add too many nutes.
For me, I have never tested those at all. I used to go nutty checking pH but no longer do that either. I just add the Nutes and Mooch and the gardens seem to do well.
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That is a good pictures of the babies,
Exciting, Kate! I think it’s so phenomenal when they transform dramatically overnight.
Thanks guys. For some reason my Mailguard on my gci.net server blocked everything from this site for several days. It never did before. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe Proboards did a change. I whitelisted the site, so here's hoping it's fixed. I thought nobody was posting anything.
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They are looking terrific, Kate. But don't overdue the pollinating. You don't want to knock the blooms off.
That's what I love about growing tomatoes - each new stage is exciting! Seeing the first buds opening, then seeing the first tomatoes forming, then seeing the first tomato that starts to change colors...
I actually knocked one off and almost cried. I seriously barely touched it too. I'm guessing it might have been a clunker. The rest seem pretty rugged. I need to do a water change in a few days when it's time to feed again. I'm just going to siphon from a corner and refill. It's way to dense to lift the top off and I'd never forgive myself if I freaked them out or damaged them. I have a shaker/jiggler siphon. Have any of you used one of them in an AG?
I can't wait. I never get this involved in my garden or hot house. It's pure insanity.
If by shaker/jiggler siphon, you mean a tube with a ball in one end and shaking it a few times gets the water to flow, that's what I use. It works well but will try to suck up the roots if I'm not careful. I ordered a battery operated pump that was recommended on the forum, but it turned out to be a dud and by the time I discovered that it didn't work, it was too late to return it.
This is similar to what I have. I just hope the water depth is enough to get it started.Hopkins 10801 FloTool Shaker Siphon with 6' Anti-Static Tubing
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Impressive! I know the feeling... sometimes my plants get more attention than my cats do! I have 4 dwarf tomato varieties growing in AGs and 2 more in soil under a grow light.
My cats would maul me if I didn't lavish them with attention, lo.I'd love to compare notes with you as we go on your tomato varieties compared to the Red Heirloom. I want to try several varieties, and would love your input on your impressions of the plants you have.
Nice growth spurt you have going.
I'm sure if this was summer and 70-80+ degrees instead of winter waffling between -20 and +30 all the time, they would be even further along. This particular variety isn't as fast as many of the other cherry tomatoes but I'm sure my house kept around 65 degrees has some impact.
I think I used too much of my CaliMagic now, and I did observe a negative reaction which I thought was in my head. Ok, I’m straight now, and will up my supplement game. I’m glad you brought the differences up. Thank you!
Looks like the mooch is a lot heavier on the nitrogen and not as strong on the Ca-Mg. Probably buffers it a lot better. On the other hand, if you have adequate nutrients before adding either, you've already got enough nitrogen in the system.
You know, maybe me, too.I've been using 5mL per gallon of CaliMagic
All I know is when I switched from the GH product to the Mr. Mucha Stash (Mooch), I had much better results. It is absorbed into the plant in a different manner. I don't know how, but I like the results.
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That’s a fabulous photo. Beautiful.
More lovely fuzzies...
Believe it or not, it was taken with my iPhone 7. For a phone camera, the more recent iPhone's aren't all that shabby.
I know others here prefer mooch, but in my experience CaliMagic works wonders with nightshades of all kinds. I've seen one dose kick a plant that's doing essentially nothing into sprouting dozens of blossoms overnight.
That was my experience. The massive growth and bud formation was shockingly fast after the first feeding. I fed again on Tuesday and today, just two days later, again an amazing amount of bushing out and more bud clusters. The plants are really sturdy and healthy. Not one leaf has been lost, or shown any damage since starting. I can't complain.
Wow, that plant is FUZZY! What are the nutrients/proportions in CaliMagic?This is the "Mooch" Guaranteed Analysis:Total Nitrogen (N) 4%Calcium (Ca) 3.8%Magnesium (Mg) 1.2%Iron (Fe) 0.1%
After checking, CaliMagic is the brand I have too. I call it mooch like the other brand because I can’t remember what it’s called, lol. And, I can’t remember to use it either, being a new thing for me. I am missing out.It’s such a big bottle- do you decant some into a smaller bottle to make it easier to use?
Mooch bottle is small enough that I do not do it. I think I also have a bottle of CalMagic and think used it once. I do want to say that Mooch and CalMag have different dispensary tables.Mooch: 2 tsp (or 10ml) for every Gallon (or 4L of water)CalMag: 1 tsp for every Gallon (or 1ml per liter)Looking at that you may need less CalMag then we add Mooch. I am horrible at figuring this out, maybe mike can assist?
depending on how many gallons I'm mixing, I use either a dosing pipette or a graduated cylinder.Guess who was once, a very long time ago, a chem major?
This is the CaliMagic Label.1 - 0 - 0GUARANTEED ANALYSISTotal Nitrogen (N).....................................1.0% 1.0% Nitrate NitrogenCalcium (Ca).............................................5.0%Magnesium (Mg)......................................1.5% 1.5% Water Soluble Magnesium Iron (Fe)....................................................0.1% 0.1% Chelated Iron (Fe)Derived from: Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Nitrate, Iron DTPADirections:Use 1ml per liter (1 teaspoon per gallon) for most applicationsI have a quart bottle and use a graduated pipette. I have buckets of them because I decant fragrances, and every time I order decanting supplies, I get freebies of pipettes, cups and funnels. I did 2.5ml the first and second feed. I'll do about 3ml from the next feed on. The large Aerogardens hold 3.2 liters of water when full.
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Thanks Shawn for offering to start my own garden thread! So exciting!
Your welcome!
They look very healthy. You’ll have blossoms soon.
I think it said around 12-15 weeks for first harvest, but I could be wrong. They'll be 6 weeks since I started them, on Tuesday. They had a huge growth spurt after I topped them and fed their first CaliMagic. On Tuesday, I feed again. There are lots of new leaves and branches forming and they suck water like mad. I'm really impressed with them.I actually just looked and there are clusters of tiny buds all over the place. I didn't notice them before. How exciting!
Very exciting!