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First Aleppo, Mirasol, and Sheepsnose Pepper Attempt

Grow log by kanewai · Original thread

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CropPepper
VarietyAleppo, Mirasol, Sheepsnose pimento
MethodAeroGarden hydroponics
EquipmentAeroGarden unit
Plants3
AudienceAdvanced

What you can learnA useful failure diary showing backup planting, attempted stem repair, malformed reproductive growth, and uncertainty about pathogen diagnosis.

Actions:1 Training1 Planting1 Equipment
Useful practices
  • taping a damaged stem
  • starting backup pods
  • checking filters while troubleshooting
  • ending a suspected infected grow rather than continuing
Problems encountered
  • snapped Aleppo stem
  • failed Sheepsnose germination
  • uncertain plant labels
  • malformed flower buds
  • fruit splitting and blackening
  • general decline

*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.

Day 38
UPDATE#5
Grower update

Update #5

Actions taken

EquipmentInspected the AeroGarden filters while troubleshooting plant decline.

K By kanewai

It's hard to get a good shot - they're tiny! Both peppers seem less robust than a few weeks ago - the leaves aren't as deep a green, and they're more droopy than before. I have four days until my next feeding; maybe that will help. I checked the filters, and they look clean.It also looks like one of the new peppers split open! Male flowers, perhaps? A healthy young pepper: And a maybe not-so-healthy young pepper:
Conversation
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mike

Mirasol Peppers are supposed to resemble Thai chiles in that they grow in bunches in an upward manner. The appearance is similar, but the Mirasol isn't as hot. I haven't grown these, though. Are you sure these are Mirasol? Mirasol's also take a long time to grow, over 100 days.

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Sher

I can't answer your questions, kanewai . But I have never seen such detailed close-ups of pepper parts before. I didn't even recognize what I was looking up. The split open pepper is a real mystery. It looks like odd seeds inside to me. Please keep us posted.

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kanewai

I have some doubts. The seeds I ordered were mirasol, and the package said mirasol - but they sure don’t look like what I was expecting!

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Shawn

This is a mystery. I for one have had some mysteries as has Mike. You may be joining the pack.

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kanewai

At this point I'm pretty sure a pathogen has infected both my peppers. There hasn't been new growth on either in a few weeks, the old growth looks wilted, and both varieties have little gnarled buds. The three fruits on the mirasol have all split open & then turned black and shriveled. The old leaves continue to grow larger, though. I can't identify the culprit. It reminds me, of all things, of the bunchy top virus, a disease here that affects bananas. I'll try chile peppers again, but at this point I think I'll wash the unit & use it for herbs. I have a couple pods on reserve that I'd like to try.

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Sher

I am so sorry, kanewai. Be sure you disinfect your machine before starting anything new in it. Looking forward to your next project!

Day 36
UPDATE#4
Grower update

Update #4

K By kanewai

I'm not sure what is going on here.The mirasol pepper has a lot of these tiny gnarled buds. Sometimes I think I see really tiny flowers, but they're hard too make out. Many have since fallen off. Last week I had actual flowers, and these now have tiny fruits going. I don't know if these are male and female flowers (in which case, I need more females!) or if this is a disease.Either way, I hope it flowers again! I've been reading through the how-to guides to see what I can do.
Conversation
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Sher

kanewai, I don't have a clue what it is. mike, do you know?

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Shawn

It is hard to tell as that part is a bit blurred. Can you get more shots and maybe a whole plant so we can see the size and where they are actually happening?

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mike

All pepper blooms have both male and female parts. They are self pollinating.

Day 21
UPDATE#3
Grower update

Update #3

K By kanewai

I have flower buds after only 40 days on the mirasol pepper! I haven't had to raise the lights yet; maybe this one will stay nice and compact. These chiles grow upward from the top of the plant (mira sol = "looks at the sun"). I need to read up on how to help them pollinate once the flowers open.
Conversation
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Sher

For tomatoes and peppers, I just shake the plant. That is all it needs. But you can use a Be the Bee or electric toothbrush if you prefer. That might be better if the plant is brittle.

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Shawn

If you shake, be gentle. Some plants are more delicate then others. You can use the Be the Bee as Sher suggested. Or you can get a battery operated toothbrush and use the back side. I do suggest if you use this method to remove all the bristles first as they can ruin the bud/flower.

Day 13
UPDATE#2
Grower update

Update #2

Actions taken

TrainingTaped a partly snapped Aleppo stem together in an attempt to save it.
PlantingPlanted a backup Aleppo pod and a second Sheepsnose pod.

K By kanewai

My Aleppo (left) and mirasol (right) peppers after one month.I thought I had killed the Aleppo a few weeks ago - I was putting in another pod, brushed it, and the stalk snapped. It was hanging by a thread. I taped it back together, and that seems to have worked.Meanwhile, I planted another pod with Aleppo, just in case it wouldn't survive. I also planted a second pod with sheepsnose pepper, since that hadn't germinated. And I didn't label well, and now my organizational skills have failed me - I see a new pepper coming up, and I have no idea which one it is. I hope it's one of the sheepnose, since the reviews here are so positive & it sounds perfect for me.I had thought herbs would grow faster than peppers, but I was wrong about that! My idea to get one herb harvest in before the peppers blocked the light isn't going to happen. I do have two little guys coming in, culantro and pipicha (my second pod; I love this herb). Both are cilantro-like, and will go great in guacamoles and salsas verde. The culantro is supposed to like semi-shade, and the pipicha grows tall and thin, so I think they might be good co-inhabitants.On a whim, I cut the roots off a cilantro plant from the grocery store & stuck it in a sponge. We'll see if that works. I had tried to plant cilantro in a pot outside the AG, but it didn't survive. No shock there - I have had a very hard time growing traditional cilantro by any method.
Conversation
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gsaxon

Wow! I am impressed that you were able to tape the plant and it survived. Hats off to you for your life-saving skills. I would have never even tried that. I learn something new everyday!

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Sher

kanewai, I am also very impressed by how you saved that pepper. Another gem to file away for when I need it!

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Shawn

They sure look good.

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kanewai

I might have posted too soon - the plant got heavy, and finally snapped this morning. I think if I had taped it tighter it might have worked. Luckily, it looks like the second one is coming up strong. I'm not going to touch it.

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clumsythumbs

That is a bummer it did not work! I had to do a similar fix on some container tomatoes over the summer. A huge storm knocked over some pots and a few others were so heavy with fruit the branches on 3 or 4 were broken or about to snap. I used some medical tape. Some of the branches survived; some did not. At least you have the backup!

Day 1
UPDATE#1
Grower update

Update #1

K By kanewai

Well hello little guy. The mirasol pepper at 18 days. He sprouted after ten days. This is a Mexican pepper that is medium-spicy. The plants should only grow 30 inches, and the peppers themselves will be three to four inches. And this is my Aleppo pepper at 18 days. He sprouted quickly, after only six days. Smoked and dried Aleppo pepper is the best; I've never had it fresh. And finally, I'm still waiting on my sheepnose to sprout. It's been 16 days. I might keep the pod in, in case the seeds are taking their time, but plant a second pod as back up.And in the same Bounty: pápalo, a strong Mexican herb that has a part citrus, part cilantro flavor. They use it in sandwiches in Puebla, and in salsa verde in other regions. I've grown it before, and love the flavor. I've shared it with friends, who seemed less impressed.
Conversation
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Shawn

All off to a good start

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Sher

So happy for you! The peppers look great! Some things are just an acquired taste. My first taste of avocado tasted like soap. And cilantro tasted vile. Now I love them both. Maybe your friends will eventually come around.

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