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Terminated Early

Candy Apple and Candy Cane peppers in a Farm 24 XL, terminated after wilting

Grow log by Shawn · Original thread

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CropPepper
VarietyCandy Apple, Candy Cane Red
MethodAeroGarden Farm 24 XL hydroponics
EquipmentAeroGarden Farm 24 XL, chopstick supports
Plants2
AudienceBeginners

What you can learnUseful comparison of two visually distinctive sweet pepper varieties and a clear example of ending a crop when unexplained wilting persists.

Actions:1 Training1 Harvest1 Finished
Useful practices
  • recognising normal variegated foliage
  • supporting a top-heavy plant with chopsticks
  • salvaging all fruit at termination
Problems encountered
  • seed coats damaged early leaves
  • uneven plant size
  • leaf curl and wilting
  • plants terminated before full colour change

*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.

Day 105
UPDATE#14
Grower update

Update #14

Actions taken

HarvestPulled all peppers from both plants.
FinishedEnded both pepper plants after wilting.

S By Shawn

These were terminated last night. While I wish they both had turned colors something was going on that they did not like and wilted. I pulled all the peppers from both and I was amazed at how many Candy Cane Peppers there were. I also had 4 nice sized (but would have grown more I think) Candy Apples. I think I might try them again at another time as they taste good. Here are some pictures. Machine is all clean and ready for new plants to be started. Stay tuned.
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Sher

They are beautiful even without the color change. Sorry they had to be terminated.

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airscapes

Put a couple in a brown paper bag for a week or so and see if they ripen!

Day 101
UPDATE#13
Grower update

Update #13

S By Shawn

The plant IS looking better this morning. Not 100%. Still has leaf curl on some but most of the droopiness is gone. Again not 100% Here are some pictures of the plant and peppers. I wish I took a picture of the wilting plant but I did not. Here is the small Candy Apple with the three peppers that can be seen from this view.
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Sher

It is loaded with peppers. I am looking forward to the color change. The candy apple really is apple shaped!

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maskedsonnet

So many peppers!! That's always so exciting to see!

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Shawn

Thanks, yes it is loaded and yes they are apple shaped. I hope they make it.

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Shawn

UPDATE: They are wilting again

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Sher

Turn off the fan! And spray them lightly with water.

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Shawn

Done!

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airscapes

So they were looking good this morning after the light was out all night and started to drop after it was on? Is the pump set to run 24/7 or is it on and off?

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Shawn

I have raised the lights after I saw the wilting. Pump runs 5 mins off 25. I am changing that to 24/7 I guess

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Shawn

Plants looked good this morning however after the lights being on for a while they started to wilt again so I lowered the wattage on the left side of my farm.

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Sher

Good move, Shawn. I have noticed my peppers do fine in a 20 watt Harvest, and I have to keep the lights raised higher than normal in my old 45 watt Bounty to keep from scorching the tops of the plants.

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Shawn

I never had an issue but it may be this particular pepper.

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mike

I've never had a problem if I leave 4-5 inches between the plant and the light.

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Shawn

I have no clue what is going on but the other plant in the same bowl is fine

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airscapes

How is the plant doing? Did it recover or still wilting?

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Shawn

Not really, still wilting.

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Shawn

Let me rephrase that, they are still "wilty"

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Shawn

It waqs wilting even more so today I took off all the leaves and branches nothing was growing on. I will see if the peppers at least ripe up. I will give it another week and if nothing this will be terminated. The Candy Apple Peppers are getting big. If anyone wants some of the Candy Cane Seeds to try and see if you get different results please PM me and I can mail out a few to you.

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Sher

Oh, Shawn! I wonder if it got some kind of viral disease? I am so sorry!

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Shawn

I dont know but the other plant in the same farm side is doing great

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Sher

Then it is a real mystery.

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campingcorgis

Hmmmm...The Case of the Wilty Pepper Plant. Sounds like a good episode name for Perry Mason! Sorry about your plant. Hope it turns around.

Day 96
UPDATE#12
Grower update

Update #12

S By Shawn

The Candy Apple plant did not grow much but it has two peppers on it that I can see at first glance. Here are a few pictures....
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Shawn

20ml Nutes and Mooch added

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Shawn

I am so upset. Out of the blue my Pepper plant is wilting. I have no idea what to do. I fed it yesterday with nutes and mooch. I have a fan blowing on it now for more circulation. Any ideas why?

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airscapes

Check for all the basics.. Too much water, pump not running or water not flowing!.. What is mooch? I had this happen when adding Hydrogen peroxide and moving a plant from one environment to another..but they recovered after lowering the water level (not in AG but bubble container)All you did was feed so maybe a cable unpluged, power strip switch.. pump failure.. go with the basics first.. wilting is stress either not enough water or not enough oxygen or too large a change in something PH/PPM, root stress.May want to check the cage/roots and make sure they are not totally blocking the water flow.. maybe the plant got moved.. Good luck!

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Sher

Shawn, it might be the fan drying them out. That happened to mine. I was running the fan all the time. I switched to running it one hour a day on low, not pointed directly at them, and they perked up. If the leaves are curled and dried out, you can also mist them lightly with water. I am not sure that's your problem. Just a guess based on my experience.

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Shawn

Pump works, water is flower, water is full. I never did and never have checked ph/ppm so I am not concerned there. Roots look good. Mooch is a calcium supplement and I have been using that for years with peppers so I dont think that is it. No bugs either...

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campingcorgis

Probably NOT it, but I mention it only because I had something similar happen with my AG Bell Pepper plant. It was also right after and R&R. The Lilac Bell and the Jalapeno were just fine and unaffected. Just the Bell was drooping and felt limp. I thought I would lose it, so as a last ditch thing, I did another R&R without nutes this time. Then, I noticed that one of the little plugs was left off, so I replaced the plug too. I don't know why, but it was better by evening and the next day you wouldn't have known there was any issue at all. I still wonder if it was too much air getting in. That plug was right next to the Bell. Or something else?Here's hoping your plant will do a turn around too!

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mike

I think I'd up the nutrients to 24 ml. I always run 24 ml Nutrients and 20 ml Mooch on a Farm. I'm having a hard time finding someone that sells the Mooch now. It's made here in Michigan, but covid hit everyone hard. I haven't got a response from them. BTW, Mooch is a nickname I gave Mr. Mucha Stash, by All Day Organics.

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Shawn

I added 4ml more of nutes

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airscapes

Shawn can you post a couple photos of what it is looking like please?

Day 94
UPDATE#11
Grower update

Update #11

Actions taken

TrainingPlaced chopsticks in the pod to keep the plant upright.

S By Shawn

I had to place some chopsticks in the pod to keep it standing tall. One side is heavier. It is hard to see the striping but you can see them ... the flash kinds made them a lot lighter.
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Sher

I am so intrigued by that striping! Looking forward to more color drama!

Day 84
UPDATE#10
Grower update

Update #10

S By Shawn

Here are a few more shots of my Candy Cane Peppers and one of the Candy Apple Pepper The Two Together: Candy Cane shots. You can really see the striping in the leaves as well as the peppers. Oh BTW, yesterday one of them fell off. Mark said it had a very good taste and it was not even fully ripe yet. Candy Apple:
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mike

Cool

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maskedsonnet

Love all the stripes and specks on both plants! They seem decorative in addition to (hopefully) tasty!

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mike

These do remind me of the Fish peppers I grew. I wonder if this was when My old 20D camera died. I couldn't find any pictures. Oh well.

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Shawn

Maybe on flickr or photobucket if you used those? I think I remember you growing htem.

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Sher

These are the first ones I have ever seen. Really interesting!

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campingcorgis

They are beautiful plants. Good job, Shawn!

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Shawn

Did a total dump, rinse, clean and refill.Added 25ml nutes and 20ml Mooch

Day 81
UPDATE#9
Grower update

Update #9

S By Shawn

Here are just two of the peppers I was able to find.
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Sher

I can't wait to watch them mature!

Day 77
UPDATE#8
Grower update

Update #8

S By Shawn

It is so hard to find the peppers with all the flowers and lined leaves. Here are two of the Candy Canes. One you can already see the lines on it. You can see the way the leaves are what burpee calls "eye catching". The leaves are not all green. At first you think something is wrong but they are normal. Here is the larger of them that I could locate I am not that impressed with the Candy Apple. It has not grown much. It does have flowers but this plant wont produce much I do not think as for the size. I am going to leave it for now and will determine at a later date if I will pull it. I may wait to get a pepper or two first. Here are the two plants together. I may thin out some of the leaves on the Candy Cane (L)
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Sher

I was hoping you would get a big harvest of nice size peppers. Maybe trimming the leaves will give it a jump start. Fingers crossed.

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Shawn

I am loving the way the Candy Cane Peppers are growing. I will get pictures. We are getting ready for a storm, well several coming thru so I need to go out and move a few things so they do not fly away.I have been on the phone all morning with calls so I will be back with pictures.

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campingcorgis

Be safe!

Day 70
UPDATE#7
Grower update

Update #7

S By Shawn

Both have grown some. The back left has a ton of buds and flowers. The front right are just starting to get buds. Closer look in the leaves of the back left
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Sher

They are fascinating plants! And the flowers are beautiful.

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campingcorgis

Wow! "Grown some"!! I'll say! Beautiful!

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Shawn

I am loving the way the Candy Cane Reds are growing. Especially the leaves, they have stripes. I have to get a good picture of them, I have teeny peppers starting.

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Shawn

I tried to find the pepper I saw but with all the stripes on leaves, flowers and buds it is hard. But I promise as soon as I see it I will get a picture

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Sher

Looking forward to those pictures!

Day 66
UPDATE#6
Grower update

Update #6

S By Shawn

Here they are as of today. There are buds on both. mike, how do these look? Should I leave them alone?
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Sher

They look vigorous and healthy!

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mike

Yes, I'd leave them. They look good. I'd bring the light down to about 4-5 inches over the taller plant, though.

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Shawn

Will do

Day 57
UPDATE#5
Grower update

Update #5

S By Shawn

Here are the plants as planted in the beginning .... Here they are now. Since the one was larger I wanted it in the back You can see the striping on the leaves
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campingcorgis

I can, indeed! Very pretty plants.

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Sher

That striping is so cool!

Day 40
UPDATE#4
Grower update

Update #4

S By Shawn

I was getting nervous because the leaves are striped on the Candy Cane Red. But then looking at the pictures they DO get striped so I am not worrying. Here is a picture of the two now.
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Sher

They look healthy and happy!

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maskedsonnet

Striped leaves sounds like they'll be cool-looking plants!

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Shawn

Added nutes a few days early. I wanted to keep this side on the same schedule as the other.

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elainev

"both seeds come up with the casings attached." I didn't know what the seed casting was called until now. I have a tomato with one stuck right in the middle of the stem. I keep waiting for it to fall off (even flicked it a bit), but it seems to be surrounding the stem. It's two weeks old. Think that tomato seeding will die?

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Shawn

Put some drops of water on the casing to help it soften.

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Quantum

elainev Try removing the seed pod (casing) with tweezers. Be gentle.

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Shawn

Yes, be careful if you try this. I did that and pulled the leaves with it . That is why I soften them first

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campingcorgis

I ignore them & they usually just fall off at some point. I'm afraid to try to help them along with anything more than a little misting of water.

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ERR0R1755

If it is useful, I made a thread a while back that offers explanations and solutions.

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campingcorgis

Thank you, ERR0R1755! That's very helpful. And, you know, I've only had issue with helmet head on my very first garden. Chives. And, for that garden, I did NOT pre-soak the pods. I wonder if that extra boost from the start made some kind of difference?

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ERR0R1755

Seed coatings and pods do have something in common - just like how the pods are able to absorb water better if soaked completely, seeds are the same way Aside from very, very tiny seeds - I always try to soak my seeds for 15 minutes before I put them in a pod.

Day 27
UPDATE#3
Grower update

Update #3

S By Shawn

This morning
Conversation
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Sher

Yay! They're up!

S
Shawn

15 ml nutes today.

S
Shawn

Mine are slow going and not much to report yet.

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Sher

They will probably get a growth spurt soon, I hope.

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campingcorgis

Threaten them! That usually works for me!

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Shawn

HA Ha~! I wish that would work

Day 11
UPDATE#2
Grower update

Update #2

S By Shawn

You will see on the first one where the stuck on casing took the leaves with it Teh second one the tips of the leaves are dark from the casing as well.
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Sher

Those are just the baby leaves. Hope the permanent leaves come in strong!

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Shawn

These both are doing good. I will take a picture later today to update thread.

Day 1
UPDATE#1
Grower update

Update #1

S By Shawn

Machine: Farm 24XL Vendors: Park's and BurpeeVarieties: See below for details Sponge: Park's Seeds: 2 per pod Nutes: None to start Candy Apple: We are sweet on this glorious bell pepper and its sweet, mild flesh. Early-maturing, large 5" fruits are deep red and sugary sweet in just 71 days. A flavor-rich pepper that excels in salads, as snacks, and when roasted, baked or sauteed. Grow about 28" Candy Cane Red: Sweet snack pepper with eye-catching foliage and fruits. grows 18" - 24" More when something happens. The plants have been switched
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campingcorgis

Seems like good choices are continuing.

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Sher

It will be interesting to compare how productive they will be. Both sound delicious!

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Shawn

Like (deep down in the pod) of both plants.

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Shawn

Both peppers are up (will get later this morning). I thought I would have to restart the Candy Cane one as both seeds come up with the casings attached. One of which fell off with the leaves, the other casing came off without damage.

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