Candy Apple and Candy Cane peppers in a Farm 24 XL, terminated after wilting
Grow log by Shawn · Original thread
What you can learnUseful comparison of two visually distinctive sweet pepper varieties and a clear example of ending a crop when unexplained wilting persists.
Useful practices
- recognising normal variegated foliage
- supporting a top-heavy plant with chopsticks
- salvaging all fruit at termination
Problems encountered
- seed coats damaged early leaves
- uneven plant size
- leaf curl and wilting
- plants terminated before full colour change
*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.
They are beautiful even without the color change. Sorry they had to be terminated.
Put a couple in a brown paper bag for a week or so and see if they ripen!
Update #13
It is loaded with peppers. I am looking forward to the color change. The candy apple really is apple shaped!
So many peppers!! That's always so exciting to see!
Thanks, yes it is loaded and yes they are apple shaped. I hope they make it.
UPDATE: They are wilting again
Turn off the fan! And spray them lightly with water.
Done!
So they were looking good this morning after the light was out all night and started to drop after it was on? Is the pump set to run 24/7 or is it on and off?
I have raised the lights after I saw the wilting. Pump runs 5 mins off 25. I am changing that to 24/7 I guess
Plants looked good this morning however after the lights being on for a while they started to wilt again so I lowered the wattage on the left side of my farm.
Good move, Shawn. I have noticed my peppers do fine in a 20 watt Harvest, and I have to keep the lights raised higher than normal in my old 45 watt Bounty to keep from scorching the tops of the plants.
I never had an issue but it may be this particular pepper.
I've never had a problem if I leave 4-5 inches between the plant and the light.
I have no clue what is going on but the other plant in the same bowl is fine
How is the plant doing? Did it recover or still wilting?
Not really, still wilting.
Let me rephrase that, they are still "wilty"
It waqs wilting even more so today I took off all the leaves and branches nothing was growing on. I will see if the peppers at least ripe up. I will give it another week and if nothing this will be terminated. The Candy Apple Peppers are getting big. If anyone wants some of the Candy Cane Seeds to try and see if you get different results please PM me and I can mail out a few to you.
Oh, Shawn! I wonder if it got some kind of viral disease? I am so sorry!
I dont know but the other plant in the same farm side is doing great
Then it is a real mystery.
Hmmmm...The Case of the Wilty Pepper Plant. Sounds like a good episode name for Perry Mason! Sorry about your plant. Hope it turns around.
Update #12
20ml Nutes and Mooch added
I am so upset. Out of the blue my Pepper plant is wilting. I have no idea what to do. I fed it yesterday with nutes and mooch. I have a fan blowing on it now for more circulation. Any ideas why?
Check for all the basics.. Too much water, pump not running or water not flowing!.. What is mooch? I had this happen when adding Hydrogen peroxide and moving a plant from one environment to another..but they recovered after lowering the water level (not in AG but bubble container)All you did was feed so maybe a cable unpluged, power strip switch.. pump failure.. go with the basics first.. wilting is stress either not enough water or not enough oxygen or too large a change in something PH/PPM, root stress.May want to check the cage/roots and make sure they are not totally blocking the water flow.. maybe the plant got moved.. Good luck!
Shawn, it might be the fan drying them out. That happened to mine. I was running the fan all the time. I switched to running it one hour a day on low, not pointed directly at them, and they perked up. If the leaves are curled and dried out, you can also mist them lightly with water. I am not sure that's your problem. Just a guess based on my experience.
Pump works, water is flower, water is full. I never did and never have checked ph/ppm so I am not concerned there. Roots look good. Mooch is a calcium supplement and I have been using that for years with peppers so I dont think that is it. No bugs either...
Probably NOT it, but I mention it only because I had something similar happen with my AG Bell Pepper plant. It was also right after and R&R. The Lilac Bell and the Jalapeno were just fine and unaffected. Just the Bell was drooping and felt limp. I thought I would lose it, so as a last ditch thing, I did another R&R without nutes this time. Then, I noticed that one of the little plugs was left off, so I replaced the plug too. I don't know why, but it was better by evening and the next day you wouldn't have known there was any issue at all. I still wonder if it was too much air getting in. That plug was right next to the Bell. Or something else?Here's hoping your plant will do a turn around too!
I think I'd up the nutrients to 24 ml. I always run 24 ml Nutrients and 20 ml Mooch on a Farm. I'm having a hard time finding someone that sells the Mooch now. It's made here in Michigan, but covid hit everyone hard. I haven't got a response from them. BTW, Mooch is a nickname I gave Mr. Mucha Stash, by All Day Organics.
I added 4ml more of nutes
Shawn can you post a couple photos of what it is looking like please?
Update #11
Actions taken
I am so intrigued by that striping! Looking forward to more color drama!
Update #10
Cool
Love all the stripes and specks on both plants! They seem decorative in addition to (hopefully) tasty!
These do remind me of the Fish peppers I grew. I wonder if this was when My old 20D camera died. I couldn't find any pictures. Oh well.
Maybe on flickr or photobucket if you used those? I think I remember you growing htem.
These are the first ones I have ever seen. Really interesting!
They are beautiful plants. Good job, Shawn!
Did a total dump, rinse, clean and refill.Added 25ml nutes and 20ml Mooch
Update #9
I can't wait to watch them mature!
Update #8
I was hoping you would get a big harvest of nice size peppers. Maybe trimming the leaves will give it a jump start. Fingers crossed.
I am loving the way the Candy Cane Peppers are growing. I will get pictures. We are getting ready for a storm, well several coming thru so I need to go out and move a few things so they do not fly away.I have been on the phone all morning with calls so I will be back with pictures.
Be safe!
Update #7
They are fascinating plants! And the flowers are beautiful.
Wow! "Grown some"!! I'll say! Beautiful!
I am loving the way the Candy Cane Reds are growing. Especially the leaves, they have stripes. I have to get a good picture of them, I have teeny peppers starting.
I tried to find the pepper I saw but with all the stripes on leaves, flowers and buds it is hard. But I promise as soon as I see it I will get a picture
Looking forward to those pictures!
Update #6
They look vigorous and healthy!
Yes, I'd leave them. They look good. I'd bring the light down to about 4-5 inches over the taller plant, though.
Will do
Update #5
I can, indeed! Very pretty plants.
That striping is so cool!
Update #4
They look healthy and happy!
Striped leaves sounds like they'll be cool-looking plants!
Added nutes a few days early. I wanted to keep this side on the same schedule as the other.
"both seeds come up with the casings attached." I didn't know what the seed casting was called until now. I have a tomato with one stuck right in the middle of the stem. I keep waiting for it to fall off (even flicked it a bit), but it seems to be surrounding the stem. It's two weeks old. Think that tomato seeding will die?
Put some drops of water on the casing to help it soften.
elainev Try removing the seed pod (casing) with tweezers. Be gentle.
Yes, be careful if you try this. I did that and pulled the leaves with it . That is why I soften them first
I ignore them & they usually just fall off at some point. I'm afraid to try to help them along with anything more than a little misting of water.
If it is useful, I made a thread a while back that offers explanations and solutions.
Thank you, ERR0R1755! That's very helpful. And, you know, I've only had issue with helmet head on my very first garden. Chives. And, for that garden, I did NOT pre-soak the pods. I wonder if that extra boost from the start made some kind of difference?
Seed coatings and pods do have something in common - just like how the pods are able to absorb water better if soaked completely, seeds are the same way Aside from very, very tiny seeds - I always try to soak my seeds for 15 minutes before I put them in a pod.
Update #3
Yay! They're up!
15 ml nutes today.
Mine are slow going and not much to report yet.
They will probably get a growth spurt soon, I hope.
Threaten them! That usually works for me!
HA Ha~! I wish that would work
Update #2
Those are just the baby leaves. Hope the permanent leaves come in strong!
These both are doing good. I will take a picture later today to update thread.
Update #1
Seems like good choices are continuing.
It will be interesting to compare how productive they will be. Both sound delicious!
Like (deep down in the pod) of both plants.
Both peppers are up (will get later this morning). I thought I would have to restart the Candy Cane one as both seeds come up with the casings attached. One of which fell off with the leaves, the other casing came off without damage.