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Terminated Early

Sweet Heat Peppers Stressed by Light, Dry Reservoirs, and Nutrient Experiments

Grow log by Sher · Original thread

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CropPepper
VarietySweet Heat
MethodAeroGarden hydroponics
EquipmentAeroGarden Bounty Basic, AeroGarden Harvest, grow tent, NFT unit
Plants3
AudienceAdvanced

What you can learnA high-value pepper post-mortem showing interactions among light distance, crowding, heat, dry reservoirs, nutrient strength, flavour, and root health.

Actions:2 Transplant1 Equipment1 Pruning
Useful practices
  • moving a low-output unit to a reflective wall
  • separating crowded peppers between systems
  • heavy canopy pruning
  • transplanting one plant into a grow tent
  • returning to moderate nutrients after flavour problems
Problems encountered
  • insufficient reflected light
  • crowding
  • extreme heat stress
  • reservoir repeatedly running dry
  • overly hot unpleasant fruit
  • unhealthy roots
  • failed severe-recovery pruning

*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.

Day 83
UPDATE#11
Grower update

Update #11

S By Sher

So far, there is one bright red pepper. These peppers are not quite as large as my earlier project. It may be because I have not babied them like I did the others.
Conversation
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mike

I do think that pepper variety has the prettiest red color when ripe.

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Shawn

I totally agree

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Sher

Thanks, mike and Shawn. I also think they are especially pretty.

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Sher

Something is terribly wrong with this batch of Sweet Heats. They are fiery! Neither Ron nor I can tolerate them. The first ones I grew that were so amazing were from seeds Shawn sent me from Park Seed, I think. This batch is from seeds I bought from Totally Tomatoes. I don't know if the problem was with the seeds, or if the plants were over stressed and plotted their revenge! The third plant that I had planted in the grow tent was subject to extreme heat stress before I got the temperature regulated, and I also switched to different nutrients for the rain tower. So I was not surprised by their unexpected heat. I figured it was a normal stress reaction. The two plants in the Bounty Basic got the normal AG nutrients with CalMag. However, the water level indicator in that machine does not work, and I accidentally let them go dry twice. So they, too, were subject to extreme stress. In any case, since neither Ron nor I can eat them, I will be terminating this project. I did plant two more Pretty 'n Sweet peppers in another Bounty tonight.

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mike

I've had some of those withj a little heat. But never more than a banana pepper.

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Sher

mike, these don't have the sweetness either. The initial taste is unpleasantly "green" -- like an unsweet bell pepper.

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mike

The ripe ones?

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Sher

The ripe ones have a watery, unsatisfying sweetness before the heat hits.

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Shawn

Maybe the vendor. I always get mine from Park Seed or I have them from Burpee as well. I know I did a side by side grow of two different vendors to test.

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Sher

That's good to know. Whether it was the seeds or stress, I will start being pickier about where I get my seeds.

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gsaxon

It is crazy how each vendor has a slightly different variety of vegetable, with the same name. I guess that is what makes this so fun, or frustrating!

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Sher

I`m trying to analyze what caused my pepper failure. After I decided to terminate the project, I just ignored it for a while, only adding water as needed. All the leaves were crisped on the tips. After a few days, I tasted a pepper, and the heat was dissipating and the pepper tasted sweeter. However, the roots looked very unhealthy. So I picked all the friut, changed the water to beginner nutes, and added peroxide to help revive the dying roots. Then I did a Khang Starr "remove most leaves, trim branches back severely" and expected it to eventually rebound like Starr's peppers do. But I must have damaged the plants too severely because the remaining leaves are still crisping and dying. In any case, I think my nute experiments did thie plants in, and I really doubt that it was the vendor's seeds.

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Shawn

I wonder. What vendor did you use again? I never had any problems with any of my Sweet Heat peppers.

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Sher

I got them from Totally Tomatoes.

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Shawn

Thats right I remember now. I really should read back in the thread

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Sher

Shawn

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Sher

mike and Shawn . Got a p.s. to add. It was not the seeds that were the problem. I had been pushing the nutrient strength to try to match the recommened ppm charts. After I posted that I was going to terminate the peppers, I dumped the water and just added 11 ml of AG nutrients and 5 ml calmag twice, and the peppers ended up tasting like Sweet Heats. So I was the culprit!

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fldave

I am glad that you were able to work the problem out Sher. After I saw a heads-up from mike a while back, one about staying under AG’s recommended dosage of AG nutes, and another about magnesium deficiency starting around week 6, I kept my AG nutrient and CaliMagic doses both in the 4ml per week range in a Bounty with one sweet pepper plant after doing a Drain&Refill dose of 6ml CaliMagic and 12ml of AG nutes a month ago. The TDS has been holding in the 700-900 range and the plant seems happy and fruitful, although I don’t know what the peppers taste like yet. Thanks Mike!

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Shawn

I am happy that they worked out for you in the end. Sometimes less is more...

Day 78
UPDATE#10
Grower update

Update #10

S By Sher

Just when I was at the, "I don't believe these peppers are ever going to ripen!" stage, I saw my first blush of purple today. This batch is growing differently than my other ones. Most of my earlier Sweet Heats were at the bottom. These have plenty at the bottom, but also a lot in the canopy.
Conversation
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Unknown

those projects are beautiful,sher. What is the taste and heat level of this pepper?There is a video review on the pepper review board that said it was sweet but sour?? No heat at all. What say more of you that have tried this pepper?

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Shawn

Ahhh, my favorite pepper. These look great. All mine had peppers growing at and up the top as well.

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Unknown

do you have a review from hubby on the forum, shawn?

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Sher

@cornne , they are thick walled, crisp, and I remember them as being sweet, like a bell pepper, with just a pleasant touch of heat. However, I just picked a green one from the grow tent so I could give you an up to the minute review. The peppers in the grow tent were grown under different conditions with different nutrients. The first bite was crisp, crunchy, and tasted like a green bell pepper. Then the heat hit! My eyes are watering and my nose is running and my mouth is on fire. I have no idea what the Scoville rating is, as I do not like hot peppers. Grown in a Bounty with AG nutrients, they are sweet with a little kick -- awesome for munching and stuffing, fresh or cooked. I think the Scoville rating is around 350. Flavorful, and definitely not sour!

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gsaxon

How big do these peppers get? Are they about the size of a jalapeño?

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Sher

Mine are fatter than a jalapeno, but a little bit shorter.

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gsaxon

Do these sweet heats need to change colors to ripen?

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Sher

Yes, they turn a beautiful Christmas red, and are at their sweetest then. You can eat them green, but they are better ripe.

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Shawn

Reviews for peppers are here

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Unknown

Thanks all. I guess it all depends on how used to eating hots one is. Some say no heat at all(I spent some time this afternoon searching the taste reviews)and some say hot!

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Sher

Shawn, I did not post a review on the other page because I was going on memory of how the ripe Aerogarden Sweet Heats taste. Once mine ripen, I'll add my official opinion, if you want it in addition to the video review.

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Shawn

You are more then welcome to add your review. Once posted I will include to the OP.

Day 60
UPDATE#9
Grower update

Update #9

S By Sher

They are coming along. There are several hidden in the foliage at the top of the plants.
Conversation
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mike

Excellent!

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Shawn

Look at all those peppers

Day 52
UPDATE#8
Grower update

Update #8

Actions taken

TransplantSuccessfully transferred the Harvest-grown pepper into the grow tent.

S By Sher

One pepper plant was successfully transplanted into the grow tent. Here are the two in the Bounty beginning to fruit.
Day 41
UPDATE#7
Grower update

Update #7

S By Sher

I have two peppers in a Bounty, and one in a Harvest. They are budding and blooming. mike, is it too late to transfer the plant in the Harvest to a NFT in the grow tent? It will be next week before I could transplant it because my other light and NFT unit are delayed in transit. Or should I just leave it in the Harvest at this late stage?
Conversation
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mike

That depends on your root ball. If you can get it out and transferred over with out too much damage to the roots, then go for it. Pepper plants are pretty resilient. I've cut out quite a bit of root mass before without significant damage to the plant. The plants may initially be traumatized for a bit, but they should recover OK.

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Sher

As always, thank you for your help, Mike.

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Shawn

I agree with Mike, if you can get the roots out (I have carefully squeezed out at much water from them as possible and carefully molded the roots into a long rope and twisted out of the pod hole. Again carefully. You may have to trim a little of the roots. But I have transplanted (ok still a beginner but have done it three or four times) with success to an outdoor planter and they survivied and thrived.

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Sher

I really appreciate your reassurance, Shawn!

Day 37
UPDATE#6
Grower update

Update #6

Actions taken

PruningRemoved heavy overgrowth that had been hiding fruit and flowers.

S By Sher

I had put off pruning the overgrowth of my pepper plants way too long -- just because they were such full, bushy, beautiful plants. But I finally did a merciless pruning job on them today. And look what I found underneath all of the leaves!
Day 25
UPDATE#5
Grower update

Update #5

S By Sher

It's time to do some heavy pruning again. I dread that part! I have two plants in the Bounty Basic and one in the Harvest.
Conversation
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Shawn

Looks healthy and happy

Day 17
UPDATE#4
Grower update

Update #4

Actions taken

TransplantTransferred one of three crowded peppers from the Bounty into a Harvest.

S By Sher

The three peppers were getting crowded in the Bounty, so I moved one to a Harvest. It will soon be time to trim off some of the big leaves.
Day 12
UPDATE#3
Grower update

Update #3

S By Sher

I will be moving the smallest plant to a Harvest today.
Conversation
S
Shawn

I love Sweet Heats

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Sher

So do I! I am so glad you introduced them to me!

Day 5
UPDATE#2
Grower update

Update #2

S By Sher

These are not growing as compactly as I would like. But maybe they won't be as overly dense as the last batch. I will eventually choose the best two plants to give them room to grow.
Day 1
UPDATE#1
Grower update

Update #1

Actions taken

EquipmentRelocated the unit to a white wall to increase reflected light.

S By Sher

I had to move this machine to a white wall where it would get more reflected light. Against the wood wall, the plants were getting too pale in the Bounty Basic for lack of light. They had plenty of nutrients. It's hard to follow the recommendations for light height when the lights won't go lower than 8 inches from the deck. From now on I will grow seedlings to a decent height before transplanting them into this machine. (I needed to vent -- sorry!) I may thin them out to two plants once they really start growing.
Conversation
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Shawn

Dont fret on the height of the hood. That is an acceptable height to start plants. Thin about how far away the sun is to freshly planted items.Also you can try placing foil around to reflect light

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