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Mystery Hot Pepper Mix Ended after Leaf Discolouration

Grow log by Shawn · Original thread

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CropPepper
VarietyBurpee Hot Pepper Mix
MethodAeroGarden hydroponics
EquipmentAeroGarden Ultra
Plants1
AudienceAdvanced

What you can learnA detailed failed mystery-pepper diary with germination, thinning, topping, supplementation, leaf-symptom monitoring, and precautionary termination.

Actions:2 Nutrients2 Pruning1 Equipment
Useful practices
  • thinning multiple seedlings
  • removing the germination dome after emergence
  • topping a vigorous seedling
  • performing a full reservoir change when symptoms worsened
Problems encountered
  • leaf curl
  • yellow dry spots
  • progressive dark leaf discolouration
  • unknown cultivar identity

*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.

Day 40
UPDATE#17
Grower update

Update #17

S By Shawn

Ok I have a dilemma and do not know what it is or what it can be.My Hot Pepper Mystery pepper was looking green and great, I took a closer look just now and ALL the leaves even the newer ones are starting to get darker colors on them.Is this something to worry about? I wonder if it has to do with the variety of pepper? Should I terminate? Should I keep and watch it? It it due for Nutes and Mooch on Monday.HELP
Conversation
S
Shawn

FYI, I just did a complete dump, rinse and refill of the water. Did not add nutes yet. It best not mess up my GAL pepper either

S
Shawn

Lastly if oyu think this needs to be terminated no problem, I can start a different pepper or grow herbs on this side.

M
mike

I'm not sure here. It looks like it needs calcium and perhaps is a bit strong on the nutes. Or did you get this change after you added the mooch?

S
Shawn

Mooch was added on Monday. 3ml. But this just happened today.

S
Shawn

If it does not look any better tomorrow afternoon and/or no one has any ideas I will terminate this one. Only because it is in with my GAL. And I will start either a new pepper or herbs. But will wait until then.

S
Shawn

Because they looked darker I am not chancing anything, so this has been terminated!

Day 38
UPDATE#16
Grower update

Update #16

Actions taken

PruningRemoved four large leaves with yellow dry spots.

S By Shawn

I removed the 4 larger leaves. They had yellowing spots on them AND they were getting dry. So I figured for the betterment of the plant and growing power I would remove them. Hopefully I did not do any harm. All the other leaves that are growing are healthy looking. Of course now it looks bare.
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MaryL

I vascillate on that decision, too, and like you I figure that the struggling leaves are just sucking energy, yet might not get better anyway so why keep them, Your younger leaves and new shoots are growing really nicely. Compare to your last picture 3 days ago, it’s quite a difference for 3 days. And now they’ll grow even faster without the competing unhealthy leaves. At least, that’s my best guess.

Day 36
UPDATE#15
Grower update

Update #15

S By Shawn

It is growing, has some leaf curl going on.Here is a shot that Mark took for me this morning,
Conversation
M
MaryL

Your new shoots look great! They sure popped out!

S
Shawn

Just realized today is Mooch DAy, 3ml added.

Day 32
UPDATE#14
Grower update

Update #14

Actions taken

NutrientsReported having added 2 ml Mooch before the update.

S By Shawn

Here is my Hot Pepper Surprise last night before the lights went off. There is some leaf curl. I had only added 2 ml Mooch, I may add 1 more. We will see what this morning brings.
Conversation
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mike

I put 3 ml in at 4 and 5 weeks, 5 ml per week after that.

S
Shawn

Yes I added 1ml to make it three for this one. Will follow your scheduling of Mooch for here on out!

M
MaryL

Nicely done. You’ll probably be very happy you did,

Day 31
UPDATE#13
Grower update

Update #13

S By Shawn

Her is a close up if the cluster above the red arrow. There is a small stem growing from the center of it. And also a top view.
Conversation
M
MaryL

I think you will be safe cutting there, because it looks like you will get 4 more new branches from it. I myself haven’t been topping my peppers lately because of how much it delays fruiting, but I recall this is one you are worried about getting too big. So, you can top there, but if it makes you nervous about it being too early, as a compromise you could just remove (very carefully) that teeny tiny sliver in the center on the top, hereIt looks like that would give you yet another 4+ branches. OTOH, it might not serve to limit the height as much as you want it to. A 3rd option is to wait 2 more days just so the top sliver will be more visible to cut. It’s a tough call, I know. If it were me, I think I’d go for the more liberal cut you were thinking to begin with. If you lose the plant, well, it’s one you were worried might not have worked out to begin with. But I do think it’ll be ok. When is your next feeding due?

S
Shawn

I went a little more aggressive and cut at the red line.

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mike

Sorry, I just got home from work. It looks to be a sturdy plant. That cut should do well.

S
Shawn

No worries, THanks Mike. It is looking sturdy

Day 30
UPDATE#12
Grower update

Update #12

S By Shawn

mike (our Pepper King), anyone? do you think I should top this off now at the red arrow? Or wait a bit more?
Conversation
D
drbanks

I might, but I'd be more comfortable if there was one more branch underneath.

Day 28
UPDATE#11
Grower update

Update #11

Actions taken

NutrientsAdded 8 ml nutrients and 2 ml Mooch.
PruningRemoved the first pair of beginner leaves.

S By Shawn

8ml Nutes and 2 ml Mooch added. I removed the two first set of beginner leaves. I never remember what they are called. I am sure in a week or more like two I will be posting for help on where to cut it. But until then....Left Plant
Conversation
M
MaryL

You mean the cotyledons?

S
Shawn

Yes! That is the word I am looking for.

D
drbanks

Well, I sure wouldn't have ever found that word.

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MaryL

I learned it from Corinne. And then I had to look it up to find out how to pronounce it, lol.

Day 26
UPDATE#10
Grower update

Update #10

S By Shawn

4 days laterLeft Side
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Unknown

when the soil is warmed by the sun...if it is mature, late may. If it is weak, early June. I would start in early May to put it at a window or on the porch in the daytime to strengthen it gradually with the breezes. A fan will do that as well.

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Shawn

I am going to try that (as long as I can contain it until then)

Day 22
UPDATE#9
Grower update

Update #9

S By Shawn

Sorry for the blur Closeup
Day 17
UPDATE#8
Grower update

Update #8

S By Shawn

Conversation
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Unknown

What a fast growing pepper! And don't you just love a good Mystery??!!I would wait until around Mid May when the ground is warm and the sun is strong to plant in-ground vegetables. Frost is usually gone by late April. But you can play it by ear and see if the ground is sufficiently warm enough.I am in Zone 6B and plant flowers the last 2 weeks of May and wait at least until the very last week of May to put my maturing vegetables in my Earth Boxes. My neighbor plants tons of veg in the ground and says it is too early in may and waits until the heat of the first 2 weeks of June. But he plants seedlings.I would keep it in the machine, and if it is getting too tall, stick it in a pot and let it borrow light from the hood ubtil it is time to put it outside...or....keep snipping it down.But then again...i am no pepper person.

S
Shawn

Thanks. As of now I will keep in the machine, but at least I have options in case I need them. And yes I do love a good Mystery.

Day 14
UPDATE#7
Grower update

Update #7

S By Shawn

If it does grow too tall I will be pruning it back as it is too cold to plant outside... assuming the timing ...
Conversation
M
MaryL

It does look a little tall for its size. I hope neither of you encounter problems, but based on past grows of these seeds it’s more likely you won’t. Fingers crossed!

S
Shawn

I need to rethink this one. Maybe I will keep it maybe I will replace.Let me ask this? When can I plant this in dirt outside? Zone 7? Maybe I can start something else and then hold this in a shorter machine until then? Oh I don't know what to do

S
Shawn

I reviewed the information on this and they are supposed to grow between 18" and 24".

M
MaryL

I don’t know that you can tell at this stage that it’s going to be too big. It may just be that it’s a strain that is quicker to germinate and is fast out of the gate, but will still only get 18”-24”. And you can top it to be safe, too.

Day 13
UPDATE#6
Grower update

Update #6

S By Shawn

I will be trimming two out this week. The question (not to be answered in a while) is what pepper will grow?
Conversation
S
Shawn

I pruned the two smaller ones out today. I have a feeling looking a the size already that this may be larger then it's supposed to be.

U
Unknown

I am experiencing this larger size appearance with my Costa Rican Project. Your seedlings look great. I love it how they do their thing at night and surprise you all of a sudden.

Day 10
UPDATE#5
Grower update

Update #5

S By Shawn

Two more popped.
Conversation
D
drbanks

It's always so exciting!

M
MaryL

Yippee-yah-yay!!! (Sp?)

Day 8
UPDATE#4
Grower update

Update #4

Actions taken

EquipmentRemoved the dome after the seedlings emerged.

S By Shawn

Needed to take the dome off. You can see a water drop on each leaf. There are two more plants ready to pop up. So time will tell which will be kept and what will grow from it.
Day 6
UPDATE#3
Grower update

Update #3

S By Shawn

It is hard to tell in this pic but it is light green in color. Let see what it looks like when the lights come on this morning.EDITED TO ADD:
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MaryL

Oh yup! There it is!! Would that all peppers germinated that fast.

Day 6
UPDATE#2
Grower update

Update #2

S By Shawn

What do you think? Is that something growing already?
Conversation
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MaryL

I’d say I’m cautiously optimistic that yes, it’s growing already. It looks like it has a teeny growing component, and either the seed shell from it, or one of the other seeds. But the contrast is already clear.

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S
Shawn

Looking inside the Hot Pepper Pod, there seems to be something growing.

M
MaryL

That sure was fast.

S
Shawn

I know I even had Mark too to be sure

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