Sweet Heat peppers recovered from warm, foul reservoir and root stress
Grow log by Sher · Original thread
What you can learnStrong troubleshooting diary demonstrating how pump timing and aeration changes can affect reservoir temperature, root colour, and uneven pepper growth.
Useful practices
- root soaking
- adding hydrogen peroxide
- shortening pump-on time to cool water
- testing an airstone and then removing it
- topping and thinning foliage
Problems encountered
- brown or discoloured roots
- foul-smelling warm reservoir
- possible cross-contamination
- purple stem streaking and mottled leaves
- airstone-associated growth suppression
*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.
I think you are really going to enjoy them. At least I hope so.
Update #16
Gorgeous, Sher! And let me know if you want that Sriracha recipe.
akivalocal , I'd love to have the recipe. I bet others would, too!
Ok, Sher, here it is! I've adapted this recipe from America's Test Kitchen. This was made for use with Fresno chilies. You could use red jalapenos for the same spice level. If you were going to use something milder like a sweet heat, I'd recommend including some added cayenne pepper to bring the kick up.Ingredients:1 1/2 lbs chilies (like Fresno). 1 1/4 cups white vinegar3/4 cup water8 peeled garlic cloves2 tablespoons fish sauce2 tablespoons dark brown sugar3 teaspoons salt (or more, depending on how salty you like things)Method:Before beginning, find a glass jar or storage vessel with at least a 2 cup capacity and sterilize the jar by pouring boiling water over it and allowing it to air dry.1. Wash the chilies and cut their stems off. Dice into chunks, but don't worry about getting them super small. Do not remove the seeds.2. Working in batches (depending on how large your blender is), blend the chilies, vinegar, water, and garlic until very smooth.3. Transfer ingredients into a medium saucepan. Whisk in the rest of the ingredients. 4. Bring mixture to a boil. Then reduce heat to medium low and simmer. Make sure to skim off any foam!5. Simmer for 15-20 minutes, until sauce is thickened to preferred consistency.6. If necessary, blend again to smooth out more.7. Ladle carefully into glass jar. Very important: refrigerate for at least 24 hours before eating! Trust me. The flavors need time to meld.Eat up!
Thank you!
Update #15
They will.
Gorgeous! What plans do you have for them?
I'm not sure yet. I do know I want to stretch out the harvest and not eat them all at the same time. I've waited too long for them!
How hot are they? Hotter than a fresno chili or a jalapeno? Or zero heat, more like a bell?
I have not tasted one yet, but according to Shawn and others, I think they are like a bell with just a little bit of heat. I should find out soon, because I see early signs of ripening!
Mmmm! Bet they would make a delicious sauce!I've been doing a bunch of preserving this week. I just finished a home-made Sriracha, but that was made with slightly hotter Fresno chilis. It was so delicious I've been thinking of growing some myself! Maybe I'll add sweet heats to the list.
Update #14
They will or should flower again. Looking good!
Update #13
That sounds about right.
Update #12
Just wait until you see the gorgeous color of red they turn.
This is my favorite edible project so far. I have already decided I am going to slice the peppers instead of popping them into my mouth, to stretch the harvest as far as possible!
The second time I grew these, I had a large amount of them that ripened at the same time. I cut them in half and scooped them out. Then I stuffed them with a mixture of cream cheese, walnuts and dried cranberries. That was soooooo good.
That sounds superb!
Thank sounds yummy mike
Update #11
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Great find! At least we know that the pepper did not like th stone
Update #10
I love these peppers.
I can't wait to taste them! But first -- the joy of watching them grow and ripen!
When they ripen, they turn the most beautiful red.
Gorgeous peppers, Sher! Can't wait to see how they grow. I've also read the discussion on pump on/off ratios in this thread with great interest.
This has been quiet a saga. Thanks for sharing the journey with us!
Thank you, zyphax. And thank you for joining us!
Update #9
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Exciting! I always snip out the large and older leaves to aid in circulation.
I need to do that, too. I'm dragging my feet about it because the plants are so cute!
I've always felt it important to remove the large leave as soon as the plant is strong enough to do so. Then when the buds start, it's important to clear out non-essential leaves in the areas where the peppers will grow.
I'm going to work with the scissors now. Thanks for the push Shawn and Mike.
Update #8
Small plants and a huge abundance of peppers on the way! Great project!
They look wonderful!
It looks like you will have a great crop. Congratulations.
Update #7
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Wonderful!
Update #6
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The one thing that has bothered me all along is the warm water. I'm thinking your pump may be going bad. Do you have a spare? Your plants would hate overly warm water. If you have a spare, replace the pump. You can't be adding ice cubes 24/7.
Mike is our resident Pepper Expert, but some things I have noticed in my growings:How far from the plants is the light? I would try lifting it some. The water will be warm in the peppers, at least mine are. They are not hot but warm. If too warm I add ice cubes. Odor, I have found if you sniff the water there will be a slight one as the nutes have a strong odor and it will transfer into the water itself. However it should not be offensive enough to bother you when walking by. Doing R&R's monthly helps.The purple streak.. Does it look like this? If so it is normal. I have had purple in my Sweet Heat stalks.Are the spotted ones the large older ones? I cut them off.
What a relief, Shawn! The purple streaks really scared me. I am still a nervous wreck about possibly killing them! I will cut that one mottled leaf off because it will make me feel better. Edit: The lights are not too close, but will raise them anyway. Anything to cool that water!
If you have a fan, place it in a way that they get some air flow without having the fan directly on them. I have done that a couple of times. With how I have them situated they get plenty so I no longer do that.
Thank you. I will grab the small fan out of the camper and use it.
Mike, I missed your post earlier. I will go ahead and order a new pump tonight. The too-warm water really concerns me, too. I have read that is the main cause of pythium. (sp?) As always, thank you.
I think I figured out why the water stays too warm. It's because the pump runs 24/7. I checked the Bounty with the tomatoes in it, and it is also too warm. The water in my Harvests is noticeably cooler. So I have changed the high growth mode pump setting in the Bounties to 5 on, 25 off like the Harvests. The tomatoes and peppers will grow more slowly, but at least the water temperature will not promote disease.
I have to check but the new Bountys do not run 24/7 anymore. Once I look I will report back as to how they run.
Thanks, Shawn. Both of mine are the original Bounty models. When you report back, I will change my settings to match yours.
For lettuce my bounty is set for 5 mins on and 25 mins off. So it runs 5 mins every half hour. I do not know how to convert that on the older units.Now for my peppers and tomatoes it is set to 60 on and 0 off. But I am sure you can use the same as the lettuce to cool it down.
Update #5
roots look ok..not slimy or anything at least.
I have found the roots on mine never stay white. They get that brownish look because of discoloration of the nutes.
Well they gave me quite a scare. I am so relieved that they seem to be okay now. I can't wait to taste them! And it looks like it will work out! Yay!
They look good. I have never topped these as they do not grow very high.
Update #4
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The roots are brown again today. I must have seriously contaminated them with the tainted syringe and nutrients. I plan to look for more of the sweet heat seeds and try again. So sorry, Shawn. I so wanted the seeds you gave me to thrive.
I just ordered more seeds. Will pick this project back up when it's the same size as this one.
Update #3
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healthy looking too
I am interested in seeing how they grow being topped.
It is supposed to make them branch out more and produce more fruit. We'll see!
mike , I need advice from the Pepper King. I decided to move one of the peppers in my Bounty to another hole. When I pulled the plant out, the water filter was caught in its roots. The filter had some brown sludge on the bottom, and the water smelled a little funky. Also, the roots on one pepper weren't as white as the other. I washed the filter and replaced it. Then I added a tablespoon of H202 to the water. The water feels warm. I am guessing this is the beginning stages of root rot. I know peppers don't like cold, so am leery of adding ice. Any suggestions? I really want these peppers to thrive. (See next post, please.)
mike, I am going ahead and soaking the roots in 2 qts. water with 1/2 cup H202. I am also giving the Bounty another sanitization cycle with 1/2 cup bleach, after scrubbing the interior with dish soap and bleach. I will give the unit several rinses. I am unable to open up the grow deck, but it is a new unit, so I'm having to trust there are no matted roots there. I would appreciate all the advice you can give about dealing with this now and in the future. So glad you are here!
First, I would pull out the pump and check obstructions that could prevent water flow. Then replace the filter. Are the discolored roots discolored all the way? I would trim them a bit. Don't soak them too long in peroxide. It's fine for removing fungus, but beyond that I don't know. When you rinse and refill, I'd run plain water, no nutes, for a couple of days. Good luck.
Update #2
They look great
I am trying to take good care of your babies!
Update #1
Love sweet heats! Here’s to a great grow!!!
Thank you! I'm a little nervous about them. I hope they don't pick up on my lack of confidence!
Sweet Heats are one of our favs! They do not need to be topped, and they do not grow very high (9-11" tops, at least all mine).
That sounds wonderful, Shawn. I am used to big plants demanding more room than I have!