Nano Ciliegia Tomato in Recirculating Hydroponics: Excessive Growth and Early Termination
Grow log by airscapes · Original thread
What you can learnStrong case study in matching tomato growth habit to indoor space, recognising possible excess-nitrogen growth, planning root capacity in recirculating buckets, and deciding when an overcrowded hydroponic run is no longer manageable.
Useful practices
- germinating at 80 F in a temperature-controlled tent
- monitoring EC
- pH
- water temperature
- and day/night air temperature
- lowering solution pH from 6.5 to 6.2
- performing weekly rinse-and-refill cycles
- reducing refill EC after possible nutrient stress
- pinching top shoots to restrain growth
- shaking flower clusters for pollination
- installing fencing to contain and support the plant
Problems encountered
- initial seedling failure
- leaf-edge damage
- suspected excessive nitrogen
- excessive bushy growth and space crowding
- restricted airflow
- root overgrowth causing bucket overflow
- stagnant or foul-smelling containment water
- fruit remaining unripe at termination
*The days were calculated automatically and approximately.
Aww, that's too bad. All that work, and no tomatoes. It was an interesting project to watch, so at least you can chalk it up to experience!
Too bad you couldn't harvest and eat all the roots it produced, airscapes. I'm sorry you lost the plants.
That is a shame. Too bad you could not just trim the roots and save.
Was kind of tired or it.. wanted my basement back Right now I have all the potted tomatoes, 4 peeper and one eggplant in the tent. Just mixed in some sulfur and UREA in the the tomato bed as per soil test and want a good heavy rain which still has not happened.. Think I am supposed to wait 2 weeks before planting after the Sulfur but will probably not as it is late already..
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Wow it grew so much, it makes it look like the other tomatoes shrunk!!
It is totally out of control, but just going to let it go. I do no think the others will continue to produce after everything ripen so will eventually give this guy the whole tent. Under all that are a lot of dead and dying leaves and branches as you can imagine. I just don't know how to deal with it, and keep it contained so I am just going to let nature deal with it.. for now.. Still noting red on this guy, too busy making leaves I guess.. but there are lots of flowers under the green so time will tell!
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It looks like it's trying to fight its way out of the tent! I dunno about that definition of "dwarf" tomato. Something that can reach 5 feet in height and a couple of feet in width isn't a dwarf!Do you have any tomatoes yet? Do you know what they're supposed to taste like? You must be another Charlotte MacLeod cozy mystery fan. The Curse of the Giant Hogweed is a classic!
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Yikes! It's a monster!
I second that
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Wow!!! It IS a bush! The dwarf plants look like the big bush had baby bushes.
looking at the picture of the 3, the Dwarfs remind me of Tribbles
Yes, they do!
airscapes , they really do!!!
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Yay, flowers pollinated!
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It is growing fast
That was sunday, raised the light 2 more inches today.. it is a bush! So I have this bush and 2 Iron Fists (dwarfs) I am totally out of my element!
Maybe the bush is a changeling?
Long as it changes into ripe read cherries!
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The water temp numbers are interesting to me. The air temp in my upstairs growing room--actually my "office" before I retired--gets over 80 during the afternoons. The water temps aren't nearly that high, but the tomato plants have really slowed their growth.
This is a basement that stays around 67 this time of year. The floor (concreate slab) is about 64. The heat is generated by the lights. the heat in the water is generated by the pumps and air temp. I have everything on a timer so the tub and buckets pump runs for 15 minutes every 2 hours and the DIY bounty runs 3 minutes on, 25 off. The bounty and tub are supported on lumber to raise them up to the sameish level as the 5gallon buckets. The buckets are in a large tub for leakage containment. I also have input and exhaust fans running when lights are on and a stationary fan inside to move air around. Oscillating fan to replace stationary arrives tomorrow! Lights are 2 200W LED panels currently running at 75% output (dimmer) at about 16" above the plants.
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Unfortunately this seedling seems to have given up.. Have planted another seed in a new sponge, back to the start. This was the pant that I hoped would be a big provider of fruit in early spring up until July when the outside garden starts producing. The waiting begins again..
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They certainly sound tasty! Your project will be interesting to watch and learn!